This is the ultimate irony. America spent 60 years trying to condemn Cubans to poverty. Yet Americans live less than Cubans do.
Life expectancy for men = 73.2 years in the USA.
So if I retire at 66, I can expect about 7.2 years of retirement. That would even be 1 year before my social security retirement age of 67. And I will have worked 52 years to achieve that retirement (I started a part time job at age 14). Work 52 to get 7.2.
Not exactly a great deal, is it? Shouldn’t retirement be at least a decade?
If you want the government to pay for your “retirement” then the retirement age is 66. But you can retire literally whenever you want as soon as you have the resources. Which might be in your late 40s or early 50s depending on education, career, and personal goals.
Also keep in mind that “life expectancy” is an average that is reduced by men that die from car accidents, strokes, and whatever else much earlier than 66. The life expectancy of a 60 year old male in the US is 80.
Average American has around 100k of debt, and over half the population can’t afford an unexpected 1,000 expense. What that says is that people are barely making enough money to make ends meet, the chances of them saving enough resources to stop working are nil. Only a tiny percentage of the population is going to be retiring at all.
Approximately 50% of Americans 55 or older are retired.
Yes, the boomers got theirs, young people today don’t have the same prospects. What part of that are you struggling with?
Did you expect that younger generations would just inherit all their wealth? I’d have thought that this kind of landed gentry outlook wouldn’t be what a tankie like yourself would promote. Instead, due to the linear nature of time, young people of every country in every stage of human history generally have less wealth than their elders. Because they’ve had less time to accumulate it. What part of that are you struggling with?
This just might be the single dumbest comment I’ve read on this site, and I don’t say that lightly.
Awwwwh, don’t have a link for hurt feelings huh? I accept your apology. 😂🤣😂
You’re accidentally tapping into the problem here. Wealthy Americans can and often do retire very early, enjoying decades of comfortable retirement. That is made possible by the people who break their bodies for very little pay and who get little or no opportunity to retire at all.
It’s pretty bad everywhere. But in the US it is especially obscene, thanks to the lack of universal healthcare and the enormous disparity between pay at the top and bottom, and the leaky to non-existent safety nets.
I don’t know how you manage to grasp half of that picture without apparently even realising that the rest of it must exist.
If you want to propose that the US should have better healthcare and other social safety nets, you’ll get no argument from me. If you’d like to propose that the wealthiest should pay for these things via taxes (or other lawful disincentives), I’ll agree with that too.
But depending on how left or right you consider yourself then a significantly reduced, government sponsored, retirement age is a more complicated question. Someone on the right might tell you that an earlier retirement is a reward for the effort and ingenuity you expended through your life. Likewise, someone on the left might argue that you have a responsibility to be a productive member of society for as long as you are able. Even moreso if you are particularly talented. I, personally, believe that there is plenty of room for diversity of outcome without compromising equality of opportunity.
My only point in my first couple comments was more than a decade of government retirement is not only possible but also likely for anyone in the US that makes it through their heart-attack years in their 50s, and that retirement earlier than that is possible based on education, career, choices, and luck. As illustrated by the fact that just over 50% of the US population is retired at 55. Everything after that was just antagonizing a troll. Which I find hilarious. YMMV.
But I was assured by the Anti-Tankies that everyone in Cuba gets executed every hour on the hour.
As a trans person I would unironically move to Cuba if they were accepting immigrants.
A small price to pay for freedom 
I love this title. You can hear the stank when they say “Cubans”.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Other countries that are ahead of the U.S. in terms of life expectancy include: Colombia, Uruguay and Chile; Costa Rica, Panama and Puerto Rico; and Turkey, Greece and Albania.
The U.S. ranks around 50th in the world for life expectancy (depending on data and what is considered a country or territory), and this has dropped 2.7 years since the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic.
However, the decrease in mortality for pneumonia (38.5 percent) helped the other way, as did a reduction in risk from other respiratory illnesses and Alzheimer’s disease.
The country has a high ratio of medical professionals and focuses on prevention and primary care.
In the years since, China’s life expectancy has steadily caught up with, and could now overtake, that of the U.S., depending on the country’s 2021 data.
According to the World Bank, global life expectancy dropped, from 72.76 to 72.75, for the first time in 2020, after recording 60 years of gains since 1960.
The original article contains 457 words, the summary contains 159 words. Saved 65%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!
Just here to say that Puerto Rico is not a country. It’s a US territory
Thank you! I was thinking the same thing. I hate it when news sources perpetuate racist disinformation.
It makes sense that it dropped a bit during COVID, hopefully, it will pick up in the future again.
Unlikely; the effects of long COVID will probably persist for years, if not decades
mortality for pneumonia
In case anyone doesn’t know where this stuff comes from: Think grandma breaking her leg getting into hospital lying in bed all the time and thereby contracting pneumonia. She had to stay that long because her bones don’t heal as they once did, and she contracted and died from pneumonia because her vascular and immune systems aren’t what they once were. Incredibly common cause of death among the elderly.
Who would want to live in Cuba anyways? They don’t even have McDonald’s
Is this ironic?
good there’s much better stuff than the cancer known as McDonalds lmao
There is one, in Gitmo base.
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More yogthos propaganda.
is it incorrect?
Nonono you dont understand, the source is contaminated with FOREIGN IDEOLOGY! It’s DIRTY! I cant touch it or itll turn me FOREIGN!
Yogthos is always talking bad about America and good about Russia and china, his only purpose here is doing that, that’s why it is just propaganda that we should try to ignore or block, too many articles with the same “idea” and not being objective with real problems.
Seems to be talking good about Cuba, not Russia or China (though China does support Cuba)
He’s talking bad about America xD
As he should, but that isn’t all he is doing
Well I know him from years ago I tried to argue with him stuff that he just ignored, and all his articles are the same as Russia propaganda (he is promoting Russia propaganda). I also dislike America and I think it is mainly the cancer of the planet, but there is no reason to pretend or defend other countries like Russia and their allies. It’s clearly that he is just a speaker for the Russian propaganda and any article talking bad about the USA will be posted by him and articles talking bad about Russia will be ignored and hidden by him. That’s the issue.
Idk, this article doesn’t seem to have all that much to do with Russia and the US should receive severe criticism because lemmy has an absurd number of western chauvinists.
are the contents of the article incorrect?
or are you just upset because it does not agree with your worldview?
You just assume things, I didn’t say it is wrong, I said he will only talk bad about America while other countries like Russia has also their own issues…
or are you just upset because it does not agree with your worldview?
🤣
“Why are you always talking bad about Ted Bundy?”
Just tired of the one-sided focus. Other criminals deserve attention too.
Other countries are criticized non-stop basically everywhere but small communities like this.
Hi! Just a friendly neighborhood human passing by. Based on your disjointed speaking style, and the fact that you seem to think we’re actually talking about serial killers now, I’d like to ask if you’re one of the following:
- AI language model
- “”“Infosec enthusiast”“”
- A wageworker who is paid to brigade internet communities, possibly for a think-tank or federal agency
- 12
Please respond honestly and respectfully!
wtf
Youre one dodgy individual, arent you? Sounds like you’re pretending something. Give it up.
exactly , it is obviously that a system that considers human live to be less valuable then Medicine will have a higer Lifeexpectation then a System that doesnt ! all who doubt that are traitors to our cause !
Western Newsweek article. Try harder dumbass
this guy keeps posting accurate information about how the propaganda I was fed since birth is wrong and that makes me angry and defensive
Cubans, as far as I know, are Americans too. I don’t recall Cuba being part of Asia.
So the CDC chooses the year where when we where still dying from covid because an orange idiot and his group of red hat morons to set the average? No shit it will go down.
The Cubans were also dealing with Covid that year.
Fun fact: Cuba developed 5 vaccines while the US was still doing covid denialism! https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2022/02/01/1056952488/a-small-island-nation-has-cooked-up-not-1-not-2-but-5-covid-vaccines-its-cuba
Liberalism truly is a cancer, something that Cuba also has a vaccine used to treat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CimaVax-EGF
Truth: I clicked that expecting to read about a Cuban vaccine for liberalism (mostly wondering how that worked)
I really admire what Cuba has done in the last half century. They’re a fairly resource poor island nation who were cut off suddenly from the trading partner who accounted for 85% of their trade. While they’re constantly struggling financially, they have a huge rate of tertiary education, better female participation in the professional workforce than almost all nations, a decent happiness score and a now a better life expectancy than the richest nation in the world.
However, the creation of COVID vaccines was not difficult. COVID is not that dissimilar to a number of existing viruses which we already have vaccines for. The production of a simple vaccine is easy, but rounds of testing and approval take a long time. This is how come Cuba could create vaccines based on existing techniques with slight tweeks.
However, the creation of COVID vaccines was not difficult.
Looking at the shitfest around the vaccines in the west i would say otherwise, including how they refuse to release the patents.
mRNA vaccines are difficult and expensive to make. Other technologies are cheaper.
The ones you had to wait for in the west were mRNA vaccines. They are newer, more complicated, and in theory customisable to a wider range of infections. While I’d love to see these opened up and used for their full potential I can see why the pharma corps don’t want that.
While I haven’t looked, I’ll bet that the Cuban ones were"simply" using a deactivated virus - which is less effective and especially less effective against mutated strains.
But they didn’t have people preferring to take horse dewormer, saying it didn’t exist, or trying to drink bleach instead of taking the vaccine.
You may have just hit on part of the reason why Americans can now expect to live three years less than Cubans.
The Democrats have done nothing to improve the handling of covid since taking office
It was a global pandemic. So Cubans were also dealing with Covid.
Also in 2021 Biden was president. And they say life expectancy went down from 2020, the year trump was president
pandemic’s over, Jack! https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-covid-pandemic-over/
