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    1 year ago

    Think about how Jews were treated before Israeli apartheid in Palestine… As in they were Palestinian Jews who lived in peace with everyone. Until the colonists came.

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        1 year ago

        Yes massacres happened, but this is not the “big picture” of Palestinian Jews in Palestine predating Israel.

        Here’s another wiki page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Jews

        In the narrative works of Arabs in Palestine in the late Ottoman period, as evidenced in the autobiographies and diaries of Khalil al-Sakakini and Wasif Jawhariyyeh, “native” Jews were often referred to and described as abnaa al-balad (sons of the country), ‘compatriots’, or Yahud awlad Arab (Jews, sons of Arabs).[4] When the First Palestinian Congress of February 1919 issued its anti-Zionist manifesto rejecting Zionist immigration, it extended a welcome to those Jews “among us who have been Arabicized, who have been living in our province since before the war; they are as we are, and their loyalties are our own.”[4]

        Not to mention the PLO considers them Palestinians (and the funny fact that needed to reiterate this and remind people that it’s okay and normal to be both Jewish and Palestinian)

      • hassanmckusick@lemmy.discothe.quest
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        Peace as in getting massacred in pogroms?

        Ummm bud, who was in control of Palestine at that time? It wasn’t the Palestinians it was the British

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            In Palestine? Source? “Pogram” doesn’t sound like a very Arab word.

            The term entered the English language from Russian to describe 19th- and 20th-century attacks on Jews in the Russian Empire (mostly within the Pale of Settlement).

            Oh yeah cuz it’s not. So please send some sources for what you’re referring to

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                The trigger which turned the procession into a riot is not known with certainty. The British military administration of Palestine was criticized for withdrawing troops from inside Jerusalem and because it was slow to regain control. As a result of the riots, trust among the British, Jews, and Arabs eroded. One consequence was that the region’s Jewish community increased moves towards an autonomous infrastructure and security apparatus parallel to that of the British administration.

                So that’s not a Palestinian Pogrom.

                Lets look at the second one… wait 1517… 1517 ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

                Edit: ohh the person I’m replying to is very much unserious

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              Notice the sentence right above that:

              A pogrom[a] is a violent riot incited with the aim of massacring or expelling an ethnic or religious group, particularly Jews.[1] The term entered the English language from Russian to describe 19th- and 20th-century attacks on Jews in the Russian Empire (mostly within the Pale of Settlement).

              Arabs wouldn’t have called something like the 1929 Palestine riots a “pogrom” or a “riot”, because they didn’t speak English, French, Yiddish, or Russian. Things have different names in different languages. They call it the Thawrat al-Burāq.

              In English, we might use either the more specific Russian loanword pogrom, or the more general French loanwords riot or massacre. Labeling something a riot doesn’t mean it has to have been done by the French, and labeling something a pogrom doesn’t mean it has to have been done by the Russians, even if that’s the origin of the loanword…