What was that point? That they “support” veganism as long as they’re not bothered by anyone speaking about it, and they’re never asked to stop supporting animal abuse?
This really reminds me of people that “support” gay people as long as they shut up and don’t act “flamboyant.”
what you dont seem to grasp is that there is a way to be yourself (gay) or have your opinions (you beeing vegan) without beeing an asshole about it.
I think people made it clear here that they werent interested in changing their opinions on eating animal(products), yet you continue to berate them. Do you realize that this causes the people you are talking to to get defensive, and less likely to change their opinion?
ah yes, I went to pride because I want queer people to be quiet, sure.
beeing gay and proud of it is absolutely no problem. „oh, you dont want to suck my dick, youre homophobic“ is a problem.
I have absolutely zero issues with vegans in real life. The ones I have met and talked to are reasonable people. people who are happy you reduce consumption because you dont want to go all the way.
Online its a lot more radicalized. you can see this even here. do you think comments telling me to stop killing animals for meat do any good? quite the opposite. I think that person is unreasonable, doesnt have good discussion skills and quite frankly I think they are a dick for not engaging in the conversation.
they arent helping their cause. societal change happens gradually, and the conversation also needs to be gradual, otherwise you risk stepping on peoples toes, and that just ends up with people wanting to distance themselves from your movement.
edit: also I never said be quiet, I said dont be a dick about it
That seems to illustrate the point that LadyLikesSpiders was making – quite nicely.
What was that point? That they “support” veganism as long as they’re not bothered by anyone speaking about it, and they’re never asked to stop supporting animal abuse?
This really reminds me of people that “support” gay people as long as they shut up and don’t act “flamboyant.”
what you dont seem to grasp is that there is a way to be yourself (gay) or have your opinions (you beeing vegan) without beeing an asshole about it.
I think people made it clear here that they werent interested in changing their opinions on eating animal(products), yet you continue to berate them. Do you realize that this causes the people you are talking to to get defensive, and less likely to change their opinion?
They 👏 could 👏 stop 👏 paying 👏 for 👏 killing 👏 animals
thats one way to proove my point lol
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ah yes, I went to pride because I want queer people to be quiet, sure.
beeing gay and proud of it is absolutely no problem. „oh, you dont want to suck my dick, youre homophobic“ is a problem.
I have absolutely zero issues with vegans in real life. The ones I have met and talked to are reasonable people. people who are happy you reduce consumption because you dont want to go all the way.
Online its a lot more radicalized. you can see this even here. do you think comments telling me to stop killing animals for meat do any good? quite the opposite. I think that person is unreasonable, doesnt have good discussion skills and quite frankly I think they are a dick for not engaging in the conversation.
they arent helping their cause. societal change happens gradually, and the conversation also needs to be gradual, otherwise you risk stepping on peoples toes, and that just ends up with people wanting to distance themselves from your movement.
edit: also I never said be quiet, I said dont be a dick about it