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    I did look at a map. Gaza is by the sea, and west bank is by the river. Gaza and west bank will be free, doesn’t make a great slogan. Frome the river to the sea, Palestine will be free, makes a great slogan

    How is that antisemitic?

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      Gaza and west bank will be free, doesn’t make a great slogan.

      Why not just “palestine will be free”? Why not “Protect palestine”? Why not “Stop killing civilians!”? I’d support all of that. But why adding the highly controversial beginning that can be understood as “let’s take back Israel territory and connect Westback + Gaza” or even “Let’s delete Israel”?

      How is that antisemitic?

      I would not even call it antisemitic… It’s not primarily against the religion. I’d call it “Anti Israel rhetoric”.

      I don’t understand what you are trying to achieve here. Chanting something that has a huge potential to be misunderstood and back-paddling afterwards does not help anyone. You talked about the far right… In Germany, that’s exactly their strategy. Saying stuff like “We will hunt politicians” or “In some cases, we’d have to shoot migrants at the border” and when they got the full attention, they back-paddle “Wasn’t meant like that… You misunderstood us”…

      There are people in this area (like Hamas) who have the primary goal to eradicate Israel. They support that sentence, but interpret it differently than you and I think, you know that.

      IMO, this conflict is too terrible to throw in this sentence that has always been “at least controversial”.

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        I don’t know why you are getting so defensive and upset. Also not sure why you think I’m trying to achieve something. Is anyone who defends Palestine some sort of shadowy sinister bearded brown Hamas supporter?

        Christ, go touch some grass.

        The slogan is used by many pro palestinian supporters, and I’m trying understand why so offensive or is this yet another case of culture bullying by pro Israeli zealots.

        And your German example makes no sense. Are you comparing people who want an end to the genocide of an entire people to far right German nazis?

        Do go out and touch some grass…

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          I don’t know why you are getting so defensive and upset.

          Why do you think that? You are sharing your arguments, I’m sharing mine… And I’m even able to listen to other arguments without downvoting them.

          Is anyone who defends Palestine some sort of shadowy sinister bearded brown Hamas supporter?

          What is this question? Did you read this above?

          Why not just “palestine will be free”? Why not “Protect palestine”? Why not “Stop killing civilians!”? I’d support all of that.


          Do go out and touch some grass…

          Nice… Sure, I’m the person" who gets upset"… Sorry for sharing arguments with you and trying to explain you why others interpret this sentence differently.