• APassenger@lemmy.one
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    1 year ago

    Checking yours is how people quickly identify the tankie who hates people for their country of origin.

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      Running around calling people who disagree with your tankies when you don’t have anything of substance to say really highlights the quality of your intellect. In all our discussions, you’ve only managed to produce a single intelligible comment when you were forced to admit that US is an oligarchic shithole that’s not actually exporting democracy around the world. I don’t hate people for their country of origin, I hate the despotic global empire that your country built and what it’s done to the world.

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        1 year ago

        You’re daft. I wasn’t forced to admit that the US has an oligarchy and you didn’t add one bit of persuasion to my conclusion. I’ve been there for years.

        You create an image of the people you talk with and then argue with that image.

        There are two things wrong with that. You don’t see the person. And you’re arguing instead of anything useful. Both track back to an unnecessary and unhealthy predilection to combativeness.

        You look for fault in others. You look for reasons to feel or be righteous. You look for all this stuff. And sometimes, you find it where it isn’t.

        Your style is broken. Your approach is broken. You vision of who you speak with is broken. You’ve forgotten that with very rare exception, all posters are people.

        You act like you’re the sole arbiter of a person’s worth and that that always tracks to being on the “right side” of issues you exclusively care about. It’s immature and, honestly, intellectually lazy.

        And if the topic of persuasion or decency doesn’t seem substantive to you, then you really need to reflect on why that’s your response.

        Let’s add: you responded quickly to the tankie part. What say you about hating people for their country of origin? Because you’ve shown active disdain as soon as you think you know they’re from places.

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          1 year ago

          The one who is actually daft is the guy who claimed that US is helping Taiwan become democratic while apparently being fully aware of the fact that US itself isn’t.

          You create an image of the people you talk with and then argue with that image.

          Nah, I read the imbecilic comments you write and reply to their content.

          You look for fault in others. You look for reasons to feel or be righteous. You look for all this stuff. And sometimes, you find it where it isn’t.

          You’re just projecting here. I address what people are saying, and you consistently produce drivel in pretty much every one of your replies. You practically never engage with the subject, you just do name calling and character attacks. That’s literally all you do.

          Your style is broken. Your approach is broken. You vision of who you speak with is broken. You’ve forgotten that with very rare exception, all posters are people.

          Why do you think I care what you think about my style. You’re not a person I respect or whose opinions I value. To me you’re just a troll following me around producing background noise.

          And if the topic of persuasion or decency doesn’t seem substantive to you, then you really need to reflect on why that’s your response.

          Respect is earned. If you want people to take you seriously then make actual arguments to support whatever point you want to make instead of spending your time trying to psychoanalyze people and make personal attacks while whinging about not being respected. It’s frankly pathetic.

          Let’s add: you responded quickly to the tankie part. What say you about hating people for their country of origin? Because you’ve shown active disdain as soon as you think you know they’re from places.

          That’s completely and utterly false. It’s just the caricature you’ve created of me. I don’t hate people based on their country of origin at all. There are plenty of people I respect in the west, you just don’t happen to be one of them. What I have disdain for are shills for the burger empire such as yourself.

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            See… that’s the thing. I never said…

            You’re off your rocker. I’m tired of being completely misrepresent while you say I said things I didn’t.

            And that, is how I know you hate. You do it persistently.

            Your replies in the branch are as off topic as my own. And you know it. No high ground left.

            I’ll add: I’m not that worked up about whether I’m respected. It’s that you throw your disrepect around potential and quasi-allies for not being pure enough. I’ve stated this clearly multiple times.

            To add further: posting a slew of links criticizing the US for trying yo help spread Democracy when your aspersions go far further… isn’t the kind of critical thinking you present it to be.

            It’s like me saying soviet Russia wanted more communism in the world. It’s obvious.

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              The difference is that you’re the one who sealions in to my threads and starts making personal attacks. I just reply to your smears, but you’re the one who always initiates. And nowhere have I made any purity tests for anyone, that’s just a thing you made up. But I’m sure you’re going to claim I’ve somehow misrepresented you once again.

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                1 year ago

                🤡

                Come on now. You attack without much provocation at all. But there’s no hate or purity tests?

                That’s a damn lie.

                What you’ve missed (clearly) in a lot of this is I could be an ally on some topics but you can’t stop lashing out in some “righteous” crusade.

                If persuasion were a battlefield, you’d be killing your own.

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                  1 year ago

                  Show me a single example where I sealion into your posts and start attacking you.

                  What you’ve missed clearly is that your tactic of attacking people who disagree with your and namecalling doesn’t make your an appealing ally for anyone. Maybe you should take your own advice, do some self reflection and stop lashing out at people while accusing others of being mean to you. Just a thought.

                  I’ve been using lemmy for around 4 years now, and we’ve had pleasant and constructive discussion here that whole time. Then a bunch of redditors showed up and started flinging feces.

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                    Ah. The source of your anger.

                    The local Overton window shifted. You’d found a bubble you liked and now it’s different and more perspectives are flooding in. Not all perspectives are informed, but you are being credibly challenged now.

                    The big fish in a small pond finds itself in a different body of water.

                    I’m not insulting people until very recently and it’s only you. You cast a wide net with your anger and it’s helping no one. And it hurts your cause.

                    I never said you sealion me. Not once. You keep seeing things as said that aren’t. And then you complain about reading comprehension of your sparring partners.

                    It’s shameful. And I’m not using that lightly. You act shamefully. It’s fucking embarrassing the way you’re trying to advance ideas by insulting people.

                    Other people are here. Adapt.

                    If we need to have a thread about maladaptive rhetoric so you cam deem my discussion on topic I’ll point out that posting a single clown emoji or vomit one is not topical, either. It only further lowers discourse and makes you into an easily discarded clown.

                    And I doubt you want that.