I came across a post in a Michigan community that mentioned this, and i asked if it really happened because it seems so crazy that Republican collaborators would directly mail in fake documents saying Trump won states he lost and I hadn’t even really heard about it.
But this is exactly what happened, as I found out today after looking for more corroborating sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_fake_electors_plot
Trump republicans in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, Arizona, Wisconsin, Nevada, and New Mexico forged false elector certificates and actually mailed in those forged electoral certificates to the national archives, that were examined and found to be forgeries, with trump, Rudy Giuliani and John Eastman as the ring leaders calling hundreds of Republicans to ask them to directly commit election fraud and forgery.
Some of them said yes. A bunch of them said yes, actually.
Well look at that. Conspiracy to defraud the elections of the United States.
I guess the #GOP was right about election fraud all along, except they were the group doing it & their accusations were just projection.
Yea, stop the steal was real, but being perpetrated by Republicans and conservatives, and Americans and its political institutions actually did stop the steal trump and his campaign officials attempted.
Like straight up. Straight up forgery and electoral fraud, even more direct than that Georgia call.
My head is spinning about it
I feel like I just learned that Arizona didn’t prosecute anyone either. So it feels like the bad people are learning more about the process and how to cheat better. Pretty fucked.
I was pretty heartened to find out the national archives inspected and then rejected all of the false certificates sent in, so I’m going with the glass half full thing here.
I would have liked some convictions as well, but it looks like Michigan is looking to prosecute people, if I understand correctly. I don’t know. It seems like the whole prosecution of the false elector plot is still going on.
Every failed coup d’état is a practice round.
And practice makes perfect.
And Americans are frogs in slowly heating water.
If the Trumpist go down this road Putin might be right with his prophesy that the US will collapse within five years. But don’t despair, the 13 founding states will always be welcome in the European Union. Right next to Ukraine :-)
If this is actual novel research/data aggregation that you’ve done, sounds like maybe you should contact a journalist or media outlet that you trust.
I don’t think it is, I just read a couple articles and then found the Wikipedia page.
I think other people knew about it, but for some reason aren’t making this as known as it should be. Or perhaps the American political process is not understood well or broadly enough that direct forgery and fraud isn’t making the impact it should when the story is reported on?
I am confused as to why this is not a bigger story or a headline that the Democrats are running with, maybe because there haven’t been any convictions related to this yet?
But thanks for bringing that up, I want to look into that and which media I should contact.
Because more people should be reporting this.
My $.02: media companies are interested in perpetuating the political horse race, because it is good for ad sales, so they softball a lot of the really heinous shit, so he looks at least something a normal-ish politician to large swaths of the American electorate who blindly consume their TV news.
