• slaacaa@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      Even if somebody agrees with Israel: they have a large and modern army, plus some nukes for backup. Let them sort their own shit out, while focusing support on a country that absolutely needs it.

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        10 months ago

        They’re also fighting basically peasants with pea shooters compared the Russian army and its weapons systems.

        Israel needs zero support from the US to war crime its way through Gaza.

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          I kind of think the US is cowardly, and holds some misguided fear about Russia. Fighting a strugging terror group like Hamas or the Houthis is easy, and we don’t have to really worry about anything. It’s an easy win in a military sense (though we all know how actually defeating a group like that actually is.)

          Also doesn’t help that Russian propoganda is unfortunately quite effective, and the US has a bunch of Putin rod riders.

      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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        they have a large and modern army

        They’re hemorrhaging money and manpower to fight this war, particularly in the wake of the Houthi’s shutting down travel through the Red Sea. If the US were to take a hard line against Israel (as Reagan did when Israel launched a war against Lebanon back in the 80s), the Israelis would be forced to back down for fear of exhausting their supplies too quickly.

        Let them sort their own shit out, while focusing support on a country that absolutely needs it.

        The US has never prioritized needs over political expediency. And the Israel lobby has far more pull in the American Congress than anything Zelensky is fielding.

        Failing to support Ukraine means you’re a bog standard Republican. Failing to support Israel means you’re going to lose your job in either party.

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          Failing to support Ukraine means you’re a bog standard Republican. Failing to support Israel means you’re going to lose your job in either party.

          Such a tragic reality that we are witnessing every day.

          There is a lot of truth to “Jews control the media” if everyone who speaks out against Zionism is punished.

          It might not be Jews who control the media, but Zionists definitely have a disproportionate amount of influence of what the average person is allowed to say.

        • Jessvj93@lemmy.world
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          AIPAC getting called out is a boon then, I’m glad they bullshit is finally under scrutiny and can be out maneuvered thanks to how fast information can spread.

    • McDropout@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      Israel is more important to the states than Ukraine (or Russia’s proximity to NATO)

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          10 months ago

          If the President can go around Congress on Israel, he can do it for Ukraine if he wanted to.

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            Not necessarily. Israel has a lot of special carveouts built into US law specifically for it. For example, they’re the only country that can spend US military aid money on their own suppliers.

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          How much money have you guys been sending to Israel throughout the last 2 decades alone vs. how much money was sent to Ukraine. You guys have money to support genocidal apartheid maniacs (including israeli terrorist settlers) but cut funds when it comes to Ukraine.

          But yes, blame the republicans. Woo! Republicans.

          How much money was sent to Israel during Biden’s administration, Obama’s administration?

          Woo! Republicans.

          But remember, vote blue no matter who ❤️

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            Republicans are actively blocking any funding for Ukraine. Meanwhile funding for Israel is passing through the house easily. It is literally their fault.

            Stop being a dipshit.

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              Republicans are actively blocking any funding for Ukraine.

              I don’t even think this is strictly true. Republicans simply don’t have a majority to pass a budget of any kind, and no one in the party is willing to compromise with the Democrats to pass a bipartisan bill. Even when the GOP has all three branches, they struggled to pass anything. They’re just bad at legislating.

              Ukraine is collateral damage.

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                That’s the trick of the GOP… literally all they do is obstruct and destroy any sort of progress the Democrats do end up making lol.

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        Ukraine produces 25% of europes food and 70% of the world industrial neon, which is needed for chip production. A famine in europe and giving control over chip production for the next 5 years to russia and china is a lot worse than losing our middle east stronghold.

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          The Middle East, often stereotyped as a barren desert, holds unparalleled geopolitical significance globally. It stands as the most crucial geopolitical climate on earth, influencing intricate political dynamics that reverberate across continents.

          Yes, I said that, on earth.

          The resources that are found in North Africa and South West Asia are to the west more valuable than Ukraine.