• cwagner@lemmy.cwagner.me
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      The UN says that of all the food products Ukraine has exported under the grain deal over the past year:

      • 47% have gone to “high-income countries” including Spain, Italy and the Netherlands
      • 26% have gone to “upper-middle income countries” such as Turkey and China
      • 27% have gone to “low and lower-middle income countries” such as Egypt, Kenya and Sudan

      via https://www.bbc.com/news/world-61759692

      64% of the wheat exported through the Black Sea Grain Initiative reached developing countries. Maize has been exported almost equally to developed and developing countries.

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      The United Nations World Food Programme (WFP – the largest humanitarian organisation in the world) has also shipped wheat from Black Sea ports. Before the war, the programme bought half of its grain stock from Ukraine. Since the start of the initiative in August 2022 over 725 000 tonnes of wheat have left Ukrainian ports to Ethiopia, Yemen, Afghanistan, Sudan, Somalia, Kenya and Djibouti.

      Which is sadly not that helpful because it’s not in relation to other numbers. Source

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        47% goes to Europe, so 53% goes to other countries. So I am technically correct here. African countries will unfortunately feel the biggest impact, even though the numbers maybe aren’t that high.

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          It goes mostly to Africa, not Europe.

          That’s what you said. Europe seems indeed to be the biggest target. So neither technically, nor actually correct.

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            My point was that it doesn‘t go mostly to Europe. Which is correct. But yes, I didn’t write it. Also Africans suffer the most because of it, not Europe (which makes this whole debate completely senseless)

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      No it doesn’t it goes mostly to China, and China will be okay without this, then, after this, it goes mainly to Europe. Don’t come with this bullshit you give two fucks about African people now.

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        The amount of grain still going to Africa is very significant, not to mention whatever processing then export of secondary products eventually goes to developing countries. And grain is a global commodity. Without the grain deal, Ukraine doesn’t have any other viable option to export at volume that can compete with sea exports, given that the European rail gauges are different and the physical logistics of transporting it are cost prohibitive and limited by capacity. That raises the price of Ukrainian grain which raises the price of grain globally since it all competes in the same global market. And those who would be most affected are countries who are both food importers and poor, where Africa and the Middle East are top of the list.

        Rising grain prices sparked the Arab spring, were part contributor to the political and economic collapse of Sri Lanka, and in general higher food prices have a very disproportionate effect on the poor everywhere.

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          Costa Rica (stick with me here) is world-renowned for it’s coffee, which makes up 15% of the GDP of the entire country. And years ago, when I visited a coffee plantation in Costa Rica, they told me how they make decaffeinated coffee - and that, while decaffeinated coffee was a product in demand in Costa Rica, there wasn’t a single de-cacfeinating plant in the entire country. It was cheaper for them to ship the coffee to Germany to be decaffeinated, then shipped back to Costa Rica for more processing before being sold. Why is this relevant?

          not to mention whatever processing then export of secondary products eventually goes to developing countries.

          Because it’s entirely possible that they’re processing the base grain into more refined products before it heads to it’s final destination.

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            Because it’s entirely possible that they’re processing the base grain into more refined products before it heads to it’s final destination.

            And, as with any speculation, just because something is possible does not guarantee it is happening. As with any speculation, it helps to try to back up your claims.

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        It‘s just that Russia presents itself as the savior of the African continent while their actions speak very differently.