Fuck that; not going to put my own vehicle in the crossfire.
While I normally don’t advocate fucking with another person’s property, keying every single panel of this vehicle is absolutely justifiable in this situation.
If they were disabled spots, I’d agree. I don’t know how many times my disabled ex and I had to park super far away from the grocery store so we could find two spots together to park in so she could use the side ramp because not only did people park in the disabled spots without placards or plates, but they would park half way in the buffer space between spots that’s meant for ramps. And it was Texas, so the cops weren’t exactly interested in helping disabled people. Not that they are anywhere, but especially in super conservative places since many conservatives look at them as a drain on society and a hastle to accommodate.
Was even worse when people would do it when we were in the store even though there was a big warning on the side that said it had a ramp. She had to bang up several car doors with her wheels while trying to jump the side of the ramp with her electric wheelchair. I definitely couldn’t pick the thing up alone, even if I carried her inside first. Usually took at least three people to pick it up totally off the ground. And I couldn’t drive the van without a driver’s seat to pull it out with. It wouldn’t let it move without either the seat installed or the wheelchair locked properly in place, as a safety feature.
I honestly don’t know if this is relevant to the conversation, but in my city in Ohio cops absolutely love finding people parked in handicapped spots. It’s like a sporting event to them, where they compare how many tickets they’ve written for that specific every week. Their other popular contest is people that have children that aren’t in car seats.
Huh. I never thought of giving a fuck about disabled parking spaces as a progressive vs conservative thing. I live in one of the most progressive areas of California and you better bet your buttons you don’t accidentally park on the line next to a disabled space or the striped ramp space next to it. Touching the line is the same as taking the space and the fine is $420, $625 and $825 for your first, second and third offenses.
I don’t know if the cops are so keen on ticketing offenders because they care about access for people with disabilities or they just love that sweet sweet ticket money, but I can’t imagine anyone getting away with that, basically ever.
Yeah, in Texas I never once got a cop to come on the nonemergency line. And the parking enforcement were too busy with the street parking tickets to go to private parking lots. The stores didn’t care either. The first two times we got trapped I got into screaming matches with the store managers who refused to make an announcement to ask people to move. So that’s why she started just not caring about the other people’s cars if there was at least enough room to extend the ramp. The ramp wouldn’t damage the car if it bumped it. It would detect it and fold back. Maybe a little scratch.
Always heard people, including relatives, complaining about there being empty disabled spots when parking was full or bragging about how they used them and never got a ticket or got a doctor to get them permanent plates, etc., when I was a kid. Never realized how shitty it was until I dated her, though. I won’t even get into how much they hated Medicare, Medicaid, social security, or welfare for disabled people, though my ex was a highschool teacher so only had Medicare. A disturbing number of people say disabled people should just be “put out of their misery”, calling them “crippleds” or whatever derogatory name, etc. They don’t see them as human.
But, I live in Seattle now and rarely see the spots full much less people parking over the line.
This car is a status symbol. It’s completely over dimensioned. It pollutes much more, without any added value in transport, harming air quality (people’s health) and climate, it diminishes other’s views on the road, it diminishes driver’s own view of a child crossing the road, it kills much more easily any unfortunate pedestrian. it’s a very strong statement of “fuck everyone else but me”, damaging this car count as self-defense.
Most people who own pickup trucks actually use the bed of the truck to haul stuff, or to two things with it. If you want a usable truck bed, Toyota is the best, you can lay a full 4x8 sheet of plywood or drywall down in it, most have well wells in them not making it less usable.
Giant SUV’s are the status symbols you think you are referring to.
Just because you don’t use a truck for it’s full capabilities everyday doesn’t mean you don’t have a valid reason to own it. That argument is ridiculously stupid. I live in the Midwest where you will find the most trucks. I know many truck owners. And almost everyone one of them has a truck to pull a trailer with, be it a boat or an RV. Can some SUVs do that, yes, but not all. And the ones that can, get even worse gas mileage.
With the current climate situation, I’m not so sure some people driving giant inefficient vehicles around all the time because they occasionally haul a boat or RV is a privilege humanity can afford. Rentals are a thing. I’ve never looked it up but I’m sure there’s boat moving services that will move them from marina to marina (or your yard). They’d probably still save money using those services or rentals because of how much cheaper cars generally are (though not all of them, Porsches are also pretty bad for fuel efficiency and are usually even more expensive than a full-size truck, and yes, after learning that I’m not opposed to getting them off the streets too).
There is so much anger to unpack here, I don’t even know where to begin. Violence directed behavior such as yours is just the start. In the near future you’d be trying assault people who think differently from you and could potentially kill someone. I think damaging your person before that happens would count as self defense.
It’s such a ridiculous argument that people in the United States driving pickup trucks are solely killing the planet. When it comes to climate damage, it ses to fall exclusively on the west. Not China or India, but exclusively Tundra drivers in the US.
Did I say that? Did I say they’re the only ones? I didn’t. I said that that extra pollution serves no good purpose. It’s for a status symbol and it’s not just in the US. Of course it’s not the only thing killing the planet but it’s the easiest thing to cut, and not even that is being cut.
Many people, myself included, use pickups this size for their livelihood. Mine is purposely modified with a lift and oversized tires for the daily off road use that is required for my work. Contractors use vehicles this size to haul loads of materials, tools, or people to jobsites. If you want to remove all of these vehicles from the road, then tell me what your replacement is. Tell me what I should be driving to get through 2+ feet of snow or 8+ inches of mud to do my job. You seem to want to dictate what other people are allowed to use, so in your infinite wisdom, what is the alternative?
Many maybe, but not most. Full-size trucks should be work only vehicles rather than personal ones. With audits done to ensure some work boss doesn’t just order some for fun when they don’t need them.
So we want to spend more money on policing people and their vehicles? There seems to be a misunderstanding on how rural America works. I don’t know many people, including myself, who can have both a work pickup and a car to piddle around in. My pickup was purchased with work in mind, but since it’s my only vehicle, I have to use it for day to day use as well. You can’t force people who live in rural areas to give up vehicles that are necessary for them in the places they live.
This whole issue about pollution is far more nuanced than just regulating pickups. Do you purchase products that are made in China, India, Bangladesh, Indonesia, etc.? If you do, this is more of a contributor to global pollution than pickup trucks in the west. I can reasonably guarantee that the forestry work I do does more at protecting the environment than your virtue signaling does.
Fuck that; not going to put my own vehicle in the crossfire.
While I normally don’t advocate fucking with another person’s property, keying every single panel of this vehicle is absolutely justifiable in this situation.
If they were disabled spots, I’d agree. I don’t know how many times my disabled ex and I had to park super far away from the grocery store so we could find two spots together to park in so she could use the side ramp because not only did people park in the disabled spots without placards or plates, but they would park half way in the buffer space between spots that’s meant for ramps. And it was Texas, so the cops weren’t exactly interested in helping disabled people. Not that they are anywhere, but especially in super conservative places since many conservatives look at them as a drain on society and a hastle to accommodate.
Was even worse when people would do it when we were in the store even though there was a big warning on the side that said it had a ramp. She had to bang up several car doors with her wheels while trying to jump the side of the ramp with her electric wheelchair. I definitely couldn’t pick the thing up alone, even if I carried her inside first. Usually took at least three people to pick it up totally off the ground. And I couldn’t drive the van without a driver’s seat to pull it out with. It wouldn’t let it move without either the seat installed or the wheelchair locked properly in place, as a safety feature.
I honestly don’t know if this is relevant to the conversation, but in my city in Ohio cops absolutely love finding people parked in handicapped spots. It’s like a sporting event to them, where they compare how many tickets they’ve written for that specific every week. Their other popular contest is people that have children that aren’t in car seats.
Huh. I never thought of giving a fuck about disabled parking spaces as a progressive vs conservative thing. I live in one of the most progressive areas of California and you better bet your buttons you don’t accidentally park on the line next to a disabled space or the striped ramp space next to it. Touching the line is the same as taking the space and the fine is $420, $625 and $825 for your first, second and third offenses.
I don’t know if the cops are so keen on ticketing offenders because they care about access for people with disabilities or they just love that sweet sweet ticket money, but I can’t imagine anyone getting away with that, basically ever.
Yeah, in Texas I never once got a cop to come on the nonemergency line. And the parking enforcement were too busy with the street parking tickets to go to private parking lots. The stores didn’t care either. The first two times we got trapped I got into screaming matches with the store managers who refused to make an announcement to ask people to move. So that’s why she started just not caring about the other people’s cars if there was at least enough room to extend the ramp. The ramp wouldn’t damage the car if it bumped it. It would detect it and fold back. Maybe a little scratch.
Always heard people, including relatives, complaining about there being empty disabled spots when parking was full or bragging about how they used them and never got a ticket or got a doctor to get them permanent plates, etc., when I was a kid. Never realized how shitty it was until I dated her, though. I won’t even get into how much they hated Medicare, Medicaid, social security, or welfare for disabled people, though my ex was a highschool teacher so only had Medicare. A disturbing number of people say disabled people should just be “put out of their misery”, calling them “crippleds” or whatever derogatory name, etc. They don’t see them as human.
But, I live in Seattle now and rarely see the spots full much less people parking over the line.
That’s horrible. I hope your ex migrated away from Texas as well.
Damn that’s crazy. In Ohio it’s a $500 fine. I would think they would jump all over it.
Not really. This guy’s an ass. He’s not harming anyone else’s property, though.
Yeah really, keying the car is a huge overreaction. If you want to fuck with them just surround their car with shopping carts.
This car is a status symbol. It’s completely over dimensioned. It pollutes much more, without any added value in transport, harming air quality (people’s health) and climate, it diminishes other’s views on the road, it diminishes driver’s own view of a child crossing the road, it kills much more easily any unfortunate pedestrian. it’s a very strong statement of “fuck everyone else but me”, damaging this car count as self-defense.
Most people who own pickup trucks actually use the bed of the truck to haul stuff, or to two things with it. If you want a usable truck bed, Toyota is the best, you can lay a full 4x8 sheet of plywood or drywall down in it, most have well wells in them not making it less usable.
Giant SUV’s are the status symbols you think you are referring to.
You pulled that “most” out of your ass. Most don’t use their full-size truck’s capabilities.
Just because you don’t use a truck for it’s full capabilities everyday doesn’t mean you don’t have a valid reason to own it. That argument is ridiculously stupid. I live in the Midwest where you will find the most trucks. I know many truck owners. And almost everyone one of them has a truck to pull a trailer with, be it a boat or an RV. Can some SUVs do that, yes, but not all. And the ones that can, get even worse gas mileage.
With the current climate situation, I’m not so sure some people driving giant inefficient vehicles around all the time because they occasionally haul a boat or RV is a privilege humanity can afford. Rentals are a thing. I’ve never looked it up but I’m sure there’s boat moving services that will move them from marina to marina (or your yard). They’d probably still save money using those services or rentals because of how much cheaper cars generally are (though not all of them, Porsches are also pretty bad for fuel efficiency and are usually even more expensive than a full-size truck, and yes, after learning that I’m not opposed to getting them off the streets too).
I drive a full size truck but mostly because i do not fit in other vehicles being almost 6’8
There is so much anger to unpack here, I don’t even know where to begin. Violence directed behavior such as yours is just the start. In the near future you’d be trying assault people who think differently from you and could potentially kill someone. I think damaging your person before that happens would count as self defense.
It’s such a ridiculous argument that people in the United States driving pickup trucks are solely killing the planet. When it comes to climate damage, it ses to fall exclusively on the west. Not China or India, but exclusively Tundra drivers in the US.
Did I say that? Did I say they’re the only ones? I didn’t. I said that that extra pollution serves no good purpose. It’s for a status symbol and it’s not just in the US. Of course it’s not the only thing killing the planet but it’s the easiest thing to cut, and not even that is being cut.
Many people, myself included, use pickups this size for their livelihood. Mine is purposely modified with a lift and oversized tires for the daily off road use that is required for my work. Contractors use vehicles this size to haul loads of materials, tools, or people to jobsites. If you want to remove all of these vehicles from the road, then tell me what your replacement is. Tell me what I should be driving to get through 2+ feet of snow or 8+ inches of mud to do my job. You seem to want to dictate what other people are allowed to use, so in your infinite wisdom, what is the alternative?
Many maybe, but not most. Full-size trucks should be work only vehicles rather than personal ones. With audits done to ensure some work boss doesn’t just order some for fun when they don’t need them.
So we want to spend more money on policing people and their vehicles? There seems to be a misunderstanding on how rural America works. I don’t know many people, including myself, who can have both a work pickup and a car to piddle around in. My pickup was purchased with work in mind, but since it’s my only vehicle, I have to use it for day to day use as well. You can’t force people who live in rural areas to give up vehicles that are necessary for them in the places they live.
This whole issue about pollution is far more nuanced than just regulating pickups. Do you purchase products that are made in China, India, Bangladesh, Indonesia, etc.? If you do, this is more of a contributor to global pollution than pickup trucks in the west. I can reasonably guarantee that the forestry work I do does more at protecting the environment than your virtue signaling does.
bro get sober the people that you love miss you