Disclaimer: I thought of this while using this command line. I actually think Celeste and Matrix are good and trans rights are human rights.

Image description: [ First pannel; character turning his back on the Trans flag, Madeline from Celeste and the Matrix movie title screen : “I am not Trans”. Second pannel; character hugging a box labeled ‘gender’: “I enjoy the gender I was assigned at birth.” Third pannel; character typing on a laptop with the Arch Linux logo while wearing programming socks. A bubble shows the line on the screen : ‘makepkg -cis’. The character says: “When I compile an AUR package, I clean install files, install the program, sync dependencies; in a single line.” ]

  • tygerprints@kbin.social
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    8 months ago

    I’m a gay man who is happily embracing his cis-genderness but I would not shun trans people as the top figure in this graphic is doing. It seems like he’s totally averse to even thinking about the concept.

    Yet there’s a lot of hostility toward cis people being happy about being cis, though we are kind of expected to fully support trans people embracing being trans. And I do - I just want the same sort of respect for being happily cis-gendered. For me, my gayness is about embracing the masculine (in every sense) and loving being born male. I know that gender and sexuality are unique for everyone - so my philosophy is, whatever you wish to be, embrace it fully and love it.

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      8 months ago

      Hi, I ask this in good faith: what are some examples of how cis people face hostility for being happily cis?

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        8 months ago

        Well a couple of times previously I’ve posted about being happy to be cis, and was immediately downvoted and pounced on by people saying I was bigoted and disrespectful to others. Yet all i was trying to say is, I’m gay and a cis person and I think that should be respected the same as it’s expected for me to respect whatever someone else chooses to be.

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          8 months ago

          Yeah, that’s whack when it happens. I think most trans people actually like hearing cis people talk positively about their own gender.

          However, context is everything. If a trans person is lamenting about a bad day for dysphoria, they probably don’t want to hear about how great it is being cis.

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            8 months ago

            I hope people are OK with cis people being OK with themselves. I fully support trans people. I recently had a letter published in our local paper about how if trans people ever do act out, (this was in regard to a shooter who had identified as a trans person) it will be because of all the bigotry and hateful legislation driving them (and many others of us LGBTQ) to do something extreme.

            You get put down for being LGBTQ, and then you get put down for defending yourself whatever your gender or orientation. It’s a no-win situation.

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        8 months ago

        One example I can think of is how cis people (usually cis males) who choose to crossdress are often misgendered, made fun of, and told they must not be cis because of how they dress.

        Though I’m not really sure if this actually counts because these issues I described also affect trans people who are gender Non-Conforming, in very similar ways.


        What’s more likely is that their comment is just a funny joke, where they swapped the roles of cis and trans in the passage and the joke part is that it sounds absurd and isn’t supposed to make sense.

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          8 months ago

          That’s true also. And what’s weird is, I’m gay but I’ve known a couple guys who were cis and dressed up as females because, it felt empowering to them. And they were both straight in terms of their orientation, one had a girlfriend, the other guy was married.

          So it’s kind of strange to be a gay person who is friendly (which I am), people open up to me about all kinds of things and, it’s just assumed I will be OK with anything (because I’m gay? I guess) so, I’ve seen all kinds of things.

          For the most part I accept others no matter what, because we all need validation and we all need to feel that. But i do get push back when I post that I’m cis and happy to be cis, like that’s somehow unacceptable or disrespectful to others. It isn’t meant to be at all.

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        8 months ago

        As a happy cis person I’ll tell you.

        Corporations are making some ads aimed at not me.

        Some media programs are being made where I’m not the only target audience.

        Also some cis writers and performers found they can’t hate on trans people without being told some people dont want to hear it and wont give them money or attention anymore.

        If I have a child that says they are trans I can’t beat them without the potential consequences that come with beating your child for any reason.

        It’s rough out there /s

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      8 months ago

      Thanks for sharing your experience, I just wanted to convey the declarative cisgenderness of the character in a visual and comical way and this is what came to mind. The whole point of the comic is the makepkg punchline tho, I wasn’t trying to make a point of anything…

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        8 months ago

        Well of course I get that. I wasn’t trying to sound accusatory so much as just my impression of what it looked like. Which is fine because it gave me a feeling of wanting to share, and so - it’s not a bad thing! The comic itself is quite good and you have a real talent for it.

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      8 months ago

      What is it called when you don’t really care what gender you are? I’m not sure it’s binary, because I don’t really fully identify with either one and just do whatever I want whenever I want.

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        Frankly I call it being a human. I love the masculine parts I was born with, but most often, I feel like i’m just a person, bopping along doing whatever I want and not worrying about if I’m being masculine or feminine. I’m just a human absorbing the experience of being alive. I’m a homo-sapiens sexual.

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        8 months ago

        Depends on the granularity you want.

        This sounds like you could fit under the “non-binary” umbrella, but there are many subcategories. Maybe genderfluid .

        Or maybe you’re cis but just don’t see a use in following gender-stereotypes.

        But in the end, getting lost in labeling is not needed. Just be you. -

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          8 months ago

          Just to point out another label that might fit, “agendered” folks are a subset of nonbinary people who report having a neutral gender identity or even none at all.

      • 🦄🦄🦄@feddit.de
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        8 months ago

        The word for not feeling a strong connection to your gender like that would be “cassgender”.