The ‘Save the Children Convoy’ is struggling as organizers accuse one another of being ‘undercover cops’ or planning ‘violence’ and ‘terrorism’

The ‘Save the Children Convoy’ is struggling as organizers accuse one another of being ‘undercover cops’ or planning ‘violence’ and ‘terrorism’

  • DarkGamer@kbin.social
    1261·
    1 year ago

    Berry says the convoy wants to save children from the “human trafficking industry,”

    Sounds like pizzagate

    but also from “mandating the shots to kids and kids getting sick

    Anti-vaxx disinformation

    and frigging education and all the stuff they’re teaching them in schools

    Anti-education disinformation

    and the trans agenda [and], gender dysphoria – all of these things.”

    Anti-trans moral panic fueled by disinformation

    he and others have shared graphics claiming “the World Health Organization and the United Nations are instructing elementary schools around the world to have pedophilia normalized.”

    Anti-LGBTQ moral panic fueled by disinformation

    and the math agenda

    Ah yes the tyranny of math

    You know what really helps solve these imaginary issues? Blocking traffic in Canadian cities, inconveniencing random people, and committing acts of terrorism. Brilliant plan, fuckwits. If only they cared about real issues as much as their imaginary ones.

    Oh and then there’s this gem:

    The “Save the Children Convoy,” a spin-off of recent anti-2SLGBTQ+ protests targeting schools and drag storytime events as well as loosely inspired by the controversial film “Sound of Freedom,” is being planned for Toronto in late summer or early fall. …
    This week, reports surfaced that one of the Sound of Freedom’s original funders had been arrested on child kidnapping charges in Missouri.

    “We have met the enemy and they are us.”

    • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
      16·
      1 year ago

      You beat me to it on that last line, but I’ll highlight some others [emphasis mine]:

      Berry is even more pointed about his concerns in the convoy’s private Facebook group where he and others have shared graphics claiming “the World Health Organization and the United Nations are instructing elementary schools around the world to have pedophilia normalized.”

      […]

      Phillips says Sager’s comments point to the influence of “sovereign citizen ideology.”

      As soon as I saw the headline, I wondered if Romana Didulo would be mentioned. She’s a conspiracy nutbag who declared herself the Queen of Canada and started her cult of followers caravanning back and forth throughout Canada. She’s been active since 2020. There’s a fascinating look at her org at Vice. She wasn’t mentioned in the original article, however.

      • Grimpen@lemmy.ca
        6·
        1 year ago

        Well, if Her Majesty Roman Dildo Romana Didulo I, Queen of Canada, isn’t endorsing it, must be fake gnus.

    • RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.caEnglish
      131·
      1 year ago

      I can “understand” what they dislike about everything here except for … math? Like, what? What could anyone possibly have against math?

      • azimir@lemmy.ml
        29·
        1 year ago

        My wife just got back from a literal math conference with fellow math researchers. I asked her what the math agenda is and she said snacks & coffee at 10am because everyone was tired from being up early to make it to the conference.

        I’ll let you know if any other nefarious math-based plots are exposed.

        • Elderos@lemmings.world
          3·
          1 year ago

          It is so dumb that I would not even consider this line to be good satire. Yet, here we are, they literally hate math because it leads to logic.

      • DarkGamer@kbin.social
        131·
        1 year ago

        Had to google it. Evidently, 2-spirits, (native American tradition of non-binary.) The ever-lengthening acronym keeps growing…

        • thecrotch@sh.itjust.works
          19·
          1 year ago

          Sexuality is complicated, so apparently is making an acronym that includes everything that’s not cis-straight lol

          • DarkGamer@kbin.social
            9·
            1 year ago

            I thought everything else was supposed to be covered under the “Q,” but I guess it’s important to some groups that they have their own letter. So, that makes the long-form 2SLGBTQIA+ now? Ugh, that does not roll off the tongue.

            • thecrotch@sh.itjust.works
              13·
              1 year ago

              I feel like the sooner society accepts that sexuality is complex the less letters will need to be added so people feel like they’re represented. I’m all for inclusion but I’d rather see a world where 2slgbtq+ is irrelevant and people are just free to be who they want to be, whatever letter that is

              • Grimpen@lemmy.ca
                4·
                1 year ago

                Pretty much. At this stage, I don’t want anyone to feel left out, but after a certain point, trying to define more points on the spectrum of human gender expression and sexuality gets into diminishing returns. Even with the traditional colours of the rainbow, where does blue end and indigo begin? The labels exist to make it easier for people to talk about things and describe the world around us. Unless there is some specific nuance someone is trying to capture, LGBTQ+ should get the point across with the Q and the +. Technically, I think you could get the point across in most use cases with something more succinct than that, but that seems to be what has been established.

                Still, I can totally get that someone can feel left out being lumped into the +, so individual use will and should vary. I still rail against the inefficiencies of common language though. The concept is simple, people who aren’t in the big main hetero & cis sections of the spectrum.

              • atrielienz@lemmy.worldEnglish
                2·
                1 year ago

                This is what I’m hoping for in my lifetime. It’s hard to explain but I want healthy sexuality to be so mainstream, and so socially acceptable that it’s boring. That it doesn’t need to be the focal point of a show or a movie or a book or whatever. That people can just be people and we don’t need token characters at all. I want it to be so normal that it’s boring.

              • DarkGamer@kbin.social
                2·
                1 year ago

                Amen, when one day sexual preferences are as political as ice cream preferences we will have reached equality.

            • SheeEttin@lemmy.worldEnglish
              8·
              1 year ago

              Q is queer or questioning, depending on who you ask. Everyone not in the listed letters is covered under the +.

        • SpooneyOdin@lemmy.ml
          42·
          1 year ago

          You know, I’ve always wondered if there’s any animosity from the other groups since they get two letters but everyone else only gets one…

    • moitoi@lemmy.world
      3·
      1 year ago

      The theories and basis are always the same for centuries. They only wrapped them with a new tinfoil.

        • orbitz@lemmy.ca
          9·
          1 year ago

          Well it is a gateway to calculus, soon you’ll be able to be closer to understanding problems that include changing values like acceleration. Okay I may be misremembering calculus but there was way more Pythagoras theorum involved than you’d guess at first look.

          • fubo@lemmy.world
            3·
            1 year ago

            Well it is a gateway to calculus, soon you’ll be able to be closer to understanding problems that include changing values like acceleration.

            And “changing values” is progressive brainwashing. The Truth isn’t variable; it’s constant: 3 = 1. Epsilon-Delta = Epstein-Data! Trigonometry is all about the SIN OF XY — that’s gay pornography and Greek pederasty being taught to your children as “math”. SIN WAVES are Liberal Lewdness in Our Schools! Don’t let your children be tangent to these dangerous curves!

      • EnderWi99in@kbin.social
        3·
        1 year ago

        Big Dick Pythagoras is what they used to call him actually. That hypotenuse shit just really isn’t safe for the children.

      • Elderos@lemmings.world
        2·
        1 year ago

        haha, wasn’t there a video where they asked people about teaching arabic numbers in school and they got really mad. what a great way to reveal your ignorance and xenophobia in one reaction.

    • Arbiter@lemmy.world
      25·
      1 year ago

      It’s about time someone stood up to math.

      If god wanted us to count past ten we’d have more fingers.

      • El Barto@lzrprt.sbsEnglish
        91·
        1 year ago

        Nah, they’re fine with meth. Math scares them because they can’t twist it to fit their bigoted beliefs, they’ve tried their little hearts out tho.

        • agentshags@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          They should go hand in hand honestly. How do you figure out if you got shorted on your ice if you can’t to math?

      • Hamon_Rye@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        31·
        1 year ago

        Later in the story they talk about the supposed MAP (or “minor-attracted persons”) agenda – maybe “the Math Agenda” was a misspeak referring to that?

        But on the other hand, these people are also lunatics so 🤷

      • ArugulaZ@kbin.social
        11·
        1 year ago

        Save the children from meth! Save it all for the kill-billies who organized this protest!

    • AnonStoleMyPants@sopuli.xyz
      14·
      1 year ago

      It is of acute importance to stay vigilant of mathematicians; we cannot go on tangents and let their plots divide us. I’m sure they’re integrating themselves into positions of power, and knowing even a fraction of their schemes could be of prime significance to factoring out their plans to subtract our freedoms.

    • Arn_Thor@feddit.uk
      6·
      1 year ago

      Could be this? https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/17/us/florida-math-textbooks-critical-race-theory

      “ DeSantis said state officials “got rid” of Common Core, a standardized teaching method rolled out in 2010. The method requires children to group numbers to solve arithmetic problems, rather than the vertical “carry the one” method familiar to most adults. The approach goes beyond simple computation to emphasize deeper mathematical concepts. The department said some of the rejected textbooks incorporated Social and Emotional Learning (SEL) and references to critical race theory – two frameworks or philosophies that some conservative groups claim are being used to indoctrinate students. Some schools around the country have recently used SEL strategies to help students cope with stress and the impacts of the Covid-19 pandemic. The Collaborative for Academic, Social and Emotional Learning defines SEL as a teaching framework aimed at helping “young people and adults acquire and apply the knowledge, skills, and attitudes to develop healthy identities, manage emotions and achieve personal and collective goals, feel and show empathy for others, establish and maintain supportive relationships, and make responsible and caring decisions.” More than a dozen states have set standards for teaching SEL in grade schools, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. But as more states consider SEL strategies, conservative groups have claimed critical race theory is embedded into the framework.”

  • Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca
    404·
    1 year ago

    A lot of comments are rightfully laughing at these morons for their infighting and incompetence, but we need to stay vigilant as this is a rising fascist movement. Sure right now it’s not well organized and has loonies running the show, but eventually they may attract a very smart evil person into the ranks who could actually grow the movement to critical mass.

  • EnderWi99in@kbin.social
    221·
    1 year ago

    So the message is entirely generic. I guess anyone with that message can join. Should we all just join the convoy in a bid to “save the children” from these people?

    • Elderos@lemmings.world
      4·
      1 year ago

      Sometimes it is so dumb it works. The previous convoy was also a “pick your own cause” mess, and I think this helped the movement gather support because a large group of people thought it was for a bunch of good causes like worker rights. In reality it was a loon anti-vax, anti-liberal movement and the organizers wanted the government to resign and give them political positions. not kidding.

    • heccubus@lemmy.world
      8·
      1 year ago

      If you consider ‘Math’ as a stand-in for ‘Science’ and ‘empirical evidence’ their fear of it becomes a little more cogent.

  • heccubus@lemmy.world
    14·
    1 year ago

    Of course they fear ‘math’ as it’s the basis for things like ‘statistics’ and ‘empirical evidence’ that would clearly demonstrate that all their beliefs are factually incorrect or completely without warrant.

  • crow@beehaw.org
    131·
    1 year ago

    I have the opinion that these people are wired to be always thinking of kids, and they recognize that it’s dangerous, but they fail to see that this isn’t normal behaviour. They think everyone else is just as much capable of being a danger to kids as they are a danger to kids themselves, and it terrifies them.

    • Elderos@lemmings.world
      3·
      1 year ago

      yep, people fighting inner demons tend to project their own deviations onto everyone else, and be loud about it. e.g. "I had to force myself not to be gay, hence it is a choice and everyone has those urges. ". Hence also why they think children can be so easily “corrupted”.

  • Skkorm@lemmy.world
    111·
    1 year ago

    It must be nice to be an boomer/gen X who has the money to just randomly drive across the damn country. Get a fuckin job you losers.

  • moitoi@lemmy.world
    9·
    1 year ago

    "A lot of people are really starting to stand up

    The circlejerk, fanboy, etc. issue… These people are megalomaniac.