I’m curious to hear thoughts on this. I agree for the most part, I just wish people would see the benefit of choice and be brave enough to try it out.

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    yesterday i woke up and didnt found the settings icon in the menu. i had to sudo apt the thing (ubuntu, maybe this is a garbage distro. would fedora or deb be more stable ? ) also why would i have to look up arch documentation for a problem i had with ubuntu ? people using windows just worry about… windows, not 90 flavours of the thing. nonetheless, windows has become bloated trash beyond win 7.

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      why would i have to look up arch documentation for a problem i had with ubuntu?

      Because they’re all built on the same software for the most part.

      I don’t really know what kind of issue you had, so I can’t say if the following would really work better for you, anyway my personal recommendation is Silverblue for (usually) fewer headaches

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            no but people kept recommending fedora (and debian). didnt know there were multiple versions of fedora. ubuntu doesn’t look as serious.

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              Ah I get it, it’s really solid so I don’t think you’d have regrets, plus you get up to date software!

              Ubuntu is really just meh these days, it is still pretty reliable, but it doesn’t look like they’re really caring a lot about their users, just my outsider opinion, as I left it a few years ago now

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                i could really use a take such as yours. there necessarily should be a reason why u changed distros. now my doubts are getting confirmed

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                  I did it for 3 reasons:

                  • hunting for PPAs, which was annoying
                  • older versions of software, especially for development, I used to try out new features a lot for things like PHP and other stuff (but it’s kind of a moot point now with things like Distrobox or Nix)
                  • upgrades to the latest major version often breaking because I first moved to the latest non-LTS and then, when it came out, to the newest LTS, contributed by the fact that the PPAs would break, since the devs behind them needed to push a new version for the last Ubuntu release

                  Today I still wouldn’t use it for their push of Snap, I just don’t dig it, I much prefer Flatpak for my apps

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                    i am no dev but also i dont like when other stuff break when i install new stuff and have to spend hours looking up guides to troubleshoot. so at least we share a common middle ground

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        That’s Fedora, though. If they prefer debian distros, Fedora may not be for them. As a (very limited) frame of reference, I prefer debian distros and I love silverblue. It is now my daily driver. I both dislike and very much like the containerization of it all.

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          I hope you’ll overcome your love hate relationship and settle your differences.
          sends hug

          If they prefer debian distros

          I want to suggest Vanilla OS, but until the new Orchid is released I’ll hold off from it, I thought it would be coming sooner by now, but I guess they still have a lot of work to do

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            Haha thanks!

            Hugs back

            I had gotten a used laptop with Win10Pro, and I only use Windows for work. I’ve always wanted to try Fedora, so I took this opportunity (I grabbed the Win10Pro key off of it beforehand, of course), and I’m very glad I did. Gentoo will be next, I think.

            Vanilla looks very interesting! It looks like a very real prospect that I may be able to recommend to new users. Ubuntu’s Unity has caused several people to whom I’ve recommend it, to revert back to Windows. Maybe Vanilla will keep them on Linux. I actually stopped recommending Ubuntu because of Unity, and started recommending Mint to Windows users or Budgie to Mac users. I know it’s somewhat configurable, but the side app bar of Unity and the Windows 8 style app menu were among some of the reasons they disliked Ubuntu. They said that it felt “ancient”.

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              grabbed the Win10Pro key off

              Oh that’s possible? I had no idea, well, not like I felt the need after discovering MAS on GitHub 👀

              Good call on the change of recommendations imo, although I worry that those DEs might receive the Wayland treatment too late, that’s a pretty important aspect to me.
              The “ancient” thing was just funny tho

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                I use HBCD, grab the keys, and reboot into the Linux installation ISO.

                I forgot about MAS!! Man, those scripts were so important when Vista just started losing its registration for kicks and giggles. I haven’t really gotten into Wayland, so I’m not familiar with it’s benefits yet, but know (just from reading comments) that’s they’re plentiful.

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                  Good to know, thanks for the info!

                  MAS is the GOAT TBH- acronym overload

                  In my experience the only improvement I actually noticed on Wayland was finally being able to screenshare correctly distinct monitors and app windows, there’s definitely a whole lot of smaller things that got better with it though, as you say, so I think (if your hardware plays well with it) it is worth moving to