I am a liberal progressive, by far.

You sure as shit aren’t “progressive” if you suck Amazon’s cock, dude. It’s been common knowledge for years that they’re shitty to their drivers.

If someone claimed to be Muslim but talked about how they loved eating pork and pissing on pictures of Muhammad I’d call fucking bullshit. Same thing with you. You’re a shitty excuse of a liar and troll.

by far

What a fucking joke lmfao

EDIT: Last week, I sold some stuff I don’t need anymore to a guy who’s working at an Amazon warehouse. Had to reschedule meeting multiple times cause he kept on crashing after work and was too tired to meet. You don’t fucking work there, you motherfucking liar. Fuck you and everyone else who shills for these evil corporations. You’re just fucking evil.

Amazon bots.

Let me guess. You’re 18, grew up in a conservative household, have never worked a “real” job before this one, and you think that paying under $300 in union dues a year is “fucking bullshit”? How close am I with those?

You’re either a paid corporate shill or horribly naïve.

If they believe, then they become “mind controlled”, “double agents”, “traitors”, etc to other flat earthers.

So, you think they are currently radicalized? Why do you think that is? Could it possibly be due to decades of people like yourself influencing their politicians who then further influence the stance of the international community to prevent Israel from putting down terrorist organizations and defending itself?

If you’re going to be concerned about the future radicalization of the Palestinians but put no thought or consideration into the present day “radicalization” of Israelis, then you need to shut up and stop commenting on this situation. In other words, your bias is clearly showing.

Just curious. Have you ever considered the radicalization of Israelis if nothing is done? 🤔

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie

Typically, anyone on here who doesn’t “believe in” a free market is a tankie.

So you’re a tankie?

That’s patently false. I’ve debated anti-vaxxers with better sources than you.

Then what word would you use to describe yourself? Tankie?

And did they liberate the land? Is Jerusalem completely owned by the Jews today?

Oh, I see. Comparing lesser evils to say one is good is only okay when it fits your agenda. Does it matter that Israel doesn’t explicitly target children and takes measures to reduce civilian deaths while Hamas purposefully targets civilians and beheads babies in front of their families? No? They’re just as evil in your eyes? But the Muslim conquerors are “okay” because they were nicer conquerors for a time?

Fuck off you deceptive prick. Conquerors aren’t liberators.

Sure, Mr Tankie who has crushed 1000 totally not peaceful protestors before

Again, everyone who says would be absolutely, 100% correct. If Israel were actually committing genocide.

Just how conservatives somehow have no clue what the definition of “coup” is, neoliberals have no clue what the definition of “genocide” is. You’re just fucking wrong, you have no fucking proof to back up your claims of genocide.

What was Israel doing to commit Genocide before October? Blockading Gaza? That’s fucking genocide? You can argue it’s many things, such as a brutal crime against humanity. But fucking genocide? At best, you are utterly fucking delusional. At worst, you’re just another anti-Semitic mouthpiece for Iran.

Not a single fucking tankie or neoliberal knows what “genocide”, “colonization”, or “apartheid” means. You’re just sheltered fools who don’t know what real, insidious evil is.

This Ken’s job is Costume

That’s my stance as well. Peaceful co-existence can and should be achieved.

Only reason I constantly bring up shit like who conquered and enslaved who is because so many people like to claim “who was here first” doesn’t matter, but they inevitably fall back on that outdated logic. At the end of the day, the vast majority of the “pro-Palestinians” I interact with are just anti-Semites. They don’t actually care about a peaceful situation, they just want Israel to get fucked.

On top of that, a lot of people don’t realize that the Palestinian governments have a history of rejecting peace deals and working to genocide the Jews. So the history and context does matter.

For sake of argument, if this were true, I think the biggest thing is that it would show the international community has been ignoring intelligence and evidence of this and doing nothing. That means the blame is shifted onto the UN and the West imo

Who are we to tell Israel to not bomb resources used to hurt or harm their civilians when we’ve done jack fucking shit about it? The Israeli government, no matter who’s in charge, has a moral responsibility to protect its own civilians. There are still hostages to be rescued and Hamas is still launching attacks at Israel when it is able to do so. Israel just does not have the manpower or resources that we do. They can’t go door-to-door and try to minimize civilian casualties while also being prepared for an invasion from their other borders.

So if this is true and we want it to stop, then it’s the responsibility of the international community to step in and provide the resources needed to minimize or outright prevent civilian casualties. Israel just does not have that capability.

Right on. The people who are occupying the homeland of the original inhabitants of Palestine should be treated with no dignity and humanity. That’s how moral, civilized people should act!

By the way, did you know that the original “Palestinians” were Jews until the Muslims went in and conquered it? Crazy to think that the modern day “Palestinians” are the descendants of colonizers who created apartheid states.

I’m not saying there isn’t. Nobody on here is saying there isn’t. But tankies are the group that are primarily using whataboutism to justify genocide against the Jews.

That’s why this shit keeps on coming up. We’re calling you out on your hypocrisy. You’re the ones who started this shit.

Great! Every democratic and peaceful nation has the right to self-defense and self-determination. Just like Tibet. Or Hong Kong. Or the Uighurs. Or one of any other dozens of peoples subjugated by communist China. Fuck off tankie.

Sidenote for Sane People: Is it just me, or do a ton of lemmy.ml accounts seem to be tankies?