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  • Hamas was literally formed as a reaction to the continued illegal occupation of Palestinian territories

    Hamas was literally formed because the Palestinian government was becoming too secular and was too interested in peace with Israel.

    Here is an interview, with quotes, and details, with a literal expert on th subject who is also Pro-Palestinian.

    How Hamas got elected:

    KEAR: The key Fatah people - most of Fatah are living in the diaspora. They’re the ones living in the four-story houses, driving around in their gold Mercedes. They’re not experiencing the day-to-day privations of the occupation, whereas Hamas - they’re a product of the occupation. You can see them walking in the streets. You can see them at the market. People may not necessarily agree with their narrative, with the - as an Islamist movement. They get a lot of respect for the fact that they live amongst the community.

    ARABLOUEI: As the first intifada went on, many Palestinians became more and more frustrated not only with the occupation but with the PLO/Fatah as it attempted to negotiate a two-state solution with Israel.

    ELGINDY: The reality was that Fatah and some of the smaller parties were interested in joining a peace process that would result in a compromise situation of a West Bank and Gaza state.

    KEAR: And certainly by this stage, 1987, 20 years of occupation - what have the PLO done? When I say PLO, what has Fatah done? Nothing, virtually. We’ve been fighting for 20 years, resisting for 20 years. Nothing has changed. In fact, it’s actually gotten worse, where we are further away from an independent state than we’ve ever been before.

    Israel did not become aggressive to Hamas until after they began terrorist activities.

    BACONI: “Hamas Contained: The Rise And Pacification Of Palestinian Resistance.” When Hamas was established out of that structure and it began to engage in resistance activities…

    ARABLOUEI: Like attacks on military posts and abducting Israeli soldiers.

    BACONI: …Immediately, Israel’s approach to dealing with Hamas changed, and it stopped being one of approval. It started being an antagonistic relationship because obviously now it’s a resistance party.

    HACHAM: In retrospective, I think this was - I call it the original sin of the Israeli authorities - Israeli security authorities that did not understand that period of time what can be developed of this innocent organization movement, al-Mujama al-Islamiya.

    https://www.npr.org/transcripts/1198908227#:~:text=ARABLOUEI%3A So Sheikh Yassin and,Islamist ideology created the organization.

    This frustration and aggression is also detailed in the original Hamas charter

    https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp

    You don’t have to agree with Israel’s government, response, or how this war is being prosecuted, to understand that

    1: Hamas is an islamic terror organization that usurped a government and denies democracy to millions

    2: Hamas cannot and will not back down, because Jihad is their sole purpose for existing

    3: A two state solution was one-track, and is always infinitely more possible with any other Palestinian leadership.

    Support for Hamas is always wrong. Gazans who support Hamas today are wrong, but they do not deserve to be killed or to suffer as they have been.




  • I would imagine any group of people who are experiencing a genocide

    Hamas took over the country in 2007, after Israel had left Gaza. They then promptly canceled elections forever, declared Jihad, and began torturing dissidents to death.

    They have not only actively fought a 2-state solution and secularization, but have opposed Israel normalizing relations with neighbors, because their goal is the eradication of Israel.

    Moreover, Hamas has stolen aid money, impeded and corrupted aid groups, and restricted access to medical supplies and food to solidify their own power.

    There is no defense for Hamas, and referring to them as a “resistance group” is both inherently dishonest and empowering to the terror organization.

    This discussion is not and has never been about Gazan’s - this discussion is about OP calling them a “resistance group with some radical elements” which they are not.






  • Uh… what about the people actually paying the tip? How on earth is it beneficial for the person paying more money for the level of service they should be getting regardless? How is that extra $3 more important to the server than to the person losing it?

    This is the crux of the argument. You’d be paying this anyway, because servers won’t take the job for less money. No matter how you slice it, you’re spending this same amount of money.

    You’re fine with some industries getting minimum wage, you just think you personally deserve more

    I currently make over 6 figures and am no longer serving, because I’m nearing 40, so yes obviously some jobs are worth more than others.

    I hope one day you learn to redirect your frustration to the cheap ass boss who thinks an hour of your sweat is worth $2 so he can keep the other $8

    This is not how any business works, much less restaurants.



  • Unironically the answer is “shop less.”

    Prices on goods rise when demand for goods stays sufficient to support the price going up. The less everyone buys, the less things will cost.

    Prices for goods have almost nothing to do with the price of rent, but the mechanisms there are the same - it’s just that you have to encourage building rather than “live somewhere less” because the second option really isn’t tenable, for obvious reasons.

    If you want rent to come down, campaign for, vote for, or even run for office to be the candidate that will change zoning laws and encourage building multifamily housing.



  • You’re not in favour of tipping because it’s the morally right thing to do, or because you altruistically support hard workers. You’re in favour of it because you personally make a shit ton more money.

    I’m in favor of it because it helps everyone involved. There is no one that tipping is bad for.

    This is really the heart of it. I’m sorry but no role is more deserving of tips than another. Everyone deserves a living wage paid by their employer.

    All wages are paid by consumers. If the price of going to a restaurant increases by 25% and servers aren’t tipped, I assure you that every person involved is having a worse experience

    People will go to restaurants less, more restaurants will fail, fewer people will work as servers, and they’ll work longer hours (similar to BOH). You can see this played out in countries that do not tip - and also with jobs like catering that generally do not focus on topping for service.

    What won’t happen is the restaurant owners themselves won’t be paying servers more from their own pocket. This is also observable anywhere tipping isn’t a thing

    Idk what meme or podcast or whatever convinced people that tipping culture is bad, but absolutely none of the arguments make any sense. If they did, I could be persuaded, but most points are just completely ignorant of the reality of working in a restaurant and the rest seem like they’re specifically designed to manipulate you.

    It’s on employers to pay their employees a fair wage

    This one being the most obviously manipulative



  • Servers make vastly more than min wage. I generally had $0 paychecks because taxes were higher than my hourly

    It’s not about pity. It’s a socially accepted standard of certain service roles. Servers are generally against removing tipping because they make more by being tipped than they would hourly.

    For every person that tips small, someone will inevitably tip over the expected value, generally more often than not. A flat 18% upcharge on food to pay for a server is generally robbing the server.