Ask them the pin code or credit card number.

When they refuse to give it, reply “So you do have something to hide.”

I actually enjoy that sentence, because you can ask them for the pin code of their bank card.

Sorry to reply to an older comment, but you are correct. Feeling alienated from (capitalist) society or the fake mediatised and commericalised reality we’re often fed is indeed different to derealization.

I’ve experienced the latter, and it’s more like an out of body experience. Like you’re floating a few centimeters above your body, or like you’re watching yourself in a movie. Like you’re experiencing something that feels like very vivid deja vu or like you’re in a dream. Which can of course lead you to make very bad decisions.

It’s a product of this warped system of capitalism. Unite over it. Don’t pin it to your lapel.

I sometimes wonder if it isn’t sometimes a deliberate attempt to individualise societal problems. Pretend the syptoms are the problem, rather than adress the cause: a sick and profoundly unfair society that is in seemingly terminal decline. You’re sad about climate change? It’s your fault for not taking anti-depressants. You’re angry about industrial pollution? You didn’t put the yogurt pot in the wrong bin, it’s your fault.

Here’s what I found:

Over the past year, numerous dissidents across Russia have found their Telegram accounts seemingly monitored or compromised. Hundreds have had their Telegram activity wielded against them in criminal cases. Perhaps most disturbingly, some activists have found their “secret chats”—Telegram’s purportedly ironclad, end-to-end encrypted feature—behaving strangely, in ways that suggest an unwelcome third party might be eavesdropping. These cases have set off a swirl of conspiracy theories, paranoia, and speculation among dissidents, whose trust in Telegram has plummeted. In many cases, it’s impossible to tell what’s really happening to people’s accounts—whether spyware or Kremlin informants have been used to break in, through no particular fault of the company; whether Telegram really is cooperating with Moscow; or whether it’s such an inherently unsafe platform that the latter is merely what appears to be going on. … Elies Campo, who says he directed Telegram’s growth, business, and partnerships for several years, confirmed this general characterization to WIRED, as did a former Telegram developer. In other words, Telegram has the capacity to share nearly any confidential information a government requests. Users just have to trust that it won’t.

https://www.wired.com/story/the-kremlin-has-entered-the-chat/