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  • But it does.
    Example: You’re on lemmy.world. Let’s say lemmy.world defederates lemmy.ml today.

    Now you won’t be able to see any new posts made by users of lemmy.ml, be it on lemmy.ml itself or on any other instance. You will still see everything that was posted up until the defederation though because defederation just means that your instance won’t request new copies of the content of lemmy.ml .
    And they also can’t post stuff on comunities of lemmy.world(I believe they technically could do that, just that nobody could see it, but it may be that by now it’s entirely blocked to even make a post there).

    Now as long as lemmy.ml doesn’t defederate lemmy.world too, their users will still be able to see your comments and may also reply to your comments on other instances, but you won’t see that.

    So defederation mainly serves two purposes for the users of the instance that defederates another instance:

    1. Their users won’t see any content from comunities of those instances in their “all” feed and also won’t see any posts from users of that instance in the comment sections of any comunity of any instance.
    2. Users of those instance won’t be able to post on their instance.


  • and have your own community – AKA instance

    The distinction between communities and instances is often poorly displayed in many cases which adds to the general confusion I feel. For example, feedit.de describes itself as “Deutschsprachige(German-speaking) Lemmy Community” and their Logo also states “lemmy community”.
    But it’s not a community, it’s an instance. The “subreddits” inside that instance are the communities, so feddit itself shouldn’t be called community to avoid confusion.

    Edit: Of course there’s also more added confusion when we talk about the Fediverse as a whole, where users on /kbin use the terms magazines and articles instead of comunities and posts and they also have different names for likes and dislikes.



  • Well our mouths wouldn’t change just because they are no longer needed the way they were before.
    It would only change if there was a negative effect of having a mouth and teeth like we have now.

    You could say if we don’t need our teeth anymore, they might disappear over time, but that would only occur if having teeth lead to higher death rates and fewer children being born. But we’ve generally come so far with our technology that we’re not really that much dependend on the “survival of the fittest” rule anymore.

    If we didn’t need our teeth and let those people who have tooth decay die from infections instead of treating them with our modern technology, then very very slowly those who had a random mutation that leads to them not having teeth at all actually have a better survivability than those who have teeth. Buit as we treat them, they have the same chance of reproducing as everyone else.

    You could also argue that it’s better for survivability to have as few body parts on you as possible that you need to provide energy for and those parts that you have being most energy efficient. So it could be that we at least develop smaller mouths when it’s no longer a benefit of having a bigger jaw etc. But this also wouldn’t happen because there is no reason why someone would die of having to spend too much energy on their body nowadays.




  • The biggest issue I have with defederating is that you basically exclude every member of that instance from discussion on other instances even when they keep their nsfw post completely within their own instance.

    If I’m on Instance A that defederated Instance B because it’s NSFW friendly, then I also can’t see comments from members of Instance B in completely unrelated comunities on other Instances.



  • The way I always viewed those up- and downvotes was as a quicker way of commenting with “I like/agree with this” or “I don’t like/agree with this” and that would be there for everyone to see too, so why shouldn’t that be true for upvotes?

    Though it’s bad design that you can’t see this info on lemmy but you can see the info about lemmy users on kbin. Either have lemmy show that info too or limit the info on kbin to up/downvotes from kbin users only.


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    1 year ago

    Show users that the community they try to interact with is on a server that defederated the users instance

    Not only that, also show users when comments in any community are made by users from an instance that your instance defederated.

    Because you(instance A) may very well only be able to see half of the comments in a thread of a community of instance B because half of them were made by users of instance C which instance A defederated.

    Right now the comments just don’t get copied to your instance at all, which also leads to followup comments not being visible even if they are not from defederated instances.
    Instead I’d like everything to be copied and then flagged based on defederations. Just don’t show the original content and instead show a hint that a comment can’t be seen because of defederation would be enough.
    At least that way we know that we’re missing something.

    Because simply not showing it also leads to confusion why you see less comments than other users on another instance.

    And this goes both ways. The user from the other instance(who can still see your comment because his instance didn’t defederate yours) should also see that I’m from an instance that defederated his instance directly by looking at my post before commenting, maybe in form of a symbol or a note next to my username, so that he knows it doesn’t make any sense to comment on my post.






  • Posting would work just as it works now, the difference is how easy you can view the different communities. The idea is that it’s just like if you were for example just subscribed to different tech communities from other instances. Now you can switch your view to subscribed to only see all those tech threads.

    The problem is when you are subscribed to more than just those tech communities, you can’t filter your view so that you still only have those tech communities on your page.

    Multi-subreddits would do just that. You could group different communities together and view them as you view your subscribed list, only now you can have multiple of those lists with different communities in them