Doing the Lord’s work in the Devil’s basement

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  • The only reason people are throwing bitch fits over AI/LLM’s is because it’s the first time the “art” industry is experiencing their own futility.

    I would even go further and argue that the art industry doesn’t really care about AI. The people white knighting on the topic are evidently not artists and probably don’t know anybody legitimately living from their art.

    The intellectual property angle makes it the most obvious. Typically independent artists don’t care about IP because they don’t have the means to enforce it. They make zero money from their IP and their business is absolutely not geared towards that - they are artists selling art, not patent trolls selling lawsuits. Copying their “style” or “general vibes” is not harming them, just like recording a piano cover of a musician’s song doesn’t make them lose any tickets sales, or sell fewer vinyls (which are the bulk of their revenue).

    AI is not coming for the job of your independent illustrator pouring their heart and soul into their projects. It is coming for the job of corporate artists illustrating corporate blogs, and those who work in content farms. Basically swapping shitty human made slop for shitty computer made slop. Same for music - if you know any musician who’s losing business because of Suno, then it’s on them cause Suno is really mediocre.

    I have yet to meet any artist with this kind of deep anti-AI sentiment. They are either vaguely anxious about the idea of the thing, but don’t touch it cause they’re busy practicing their craft - or they use the hallucination engines as a tool for inspiration. At any rate there’s no indication that their business has seen much of a slowdown linked to AI.




  • Honestly the use case i’m working on is pretty mind blowing. User records an unstructured voice note like “i am out of item 12, also prices of items 13 & 15 is down to 4 dollars 99, also shipping for all items above 1kg is now 3 dollars 99” and the LLM will search the database for items >1kg (using tool calling) then generate a JSON representing the changes to be made. We use that JSON to make a simple UI where the user can review the changes - then voilà it’s sent to the backend which persists the change in database. In the ideal case the user never even pulls up the virtual keyboard on their phone, it’s just “talk, check, click, done”.



  • I’m currently a guy working on something like this ! It’s even simpler as you can have structured output on the chatgpt API. Basically you give it a JSON schema and it’s guaranteed to respond with JSON that validates against that schema. Spent a couple weeks hacking at it and i’m positively impressed, I have had clean JSON 100% of the time, and the data extraction is pretty reliable too.

    The tooling is actually reaching a sweet spot right now where it makes sense to integrate LLMs in production code (if the use case makes sense and you haven’t just shoe-horned it in for the hype).




  • From reading your post it seems like you could be interested by the Jesus movement (that is the jewish followers of Jesus, before catholicism was codified and adopted by the Romans as state religion). Everything that wasn’t authoritarian fear-based catholic was branded as “gnostic heresy” and purged from the canon, but there’s some real good shit that is very close to the core message of Christ.

    A recent(-ish) example of gnostic christianity is catharism, which was a heresy that lasted for a few centuries in the South of France. They had no clergy, just a caste of ascetic wise men and women who would walk the land and dispense wisdom and judgement. Very egalitarian, very spiritual, very christ-like. As you can imagine, they got crushed in one of the rare “self-crusades” in history (meaning the King of France sent his own armies to burn down cities in his own country and murder thousands upon thousands of his own subjects). As you can imagine there is not one history teacher in France who will tell you about this episode.



  • Yeh, i did some looking up in the meantime and indeed you’re gonna have a context size issue. That’s why it’s only summarizing the last few thousand characters of the text, that’s the size of its attention.

    There are some models fine-tuned to 8K tokens context window, some even to 16K like this Mistral brew. If you have a GPU with 8G of VRAM you should be able to run it, using one of the quantized versions (Q4 or Q5 should be fine). Summarizing should still be reasonably good.

    If 16k isn’t enough for you then that’s probably not something you can perform locally. However you can still run a larger model privately in the cloud. Hugging face for example allows you to rent GPUs by the minute and run inference on them, it should just net you a few dollars. As far as i know this approach should still be compatible with Open WebUI.