There always the aspect of keeping old hardware alive and useful.

I mean, there are plenty of words that are used almost exclusively to cause offensive. Swears and slurs. Often it can be debatable whether or not a word counts as a swear or slur, but it’s usually pretty clear. I prefer to avoid using words that are intended to cause offence.

The word “woke” doesn’t seem to fall into these categories, but it’s still a term that seems to have been polarised by both groups. I don’t think that word would ruin a discussion that was already political, but it would definitely cause a discussion to become political.

As far as one group is concerned, being “woke” is inherently good and means being aware of modern issues and accepting of marginalised groups.
As far as the other is concerned, being “woke” is requiring all media to have this representation and lashing out when it isn’t inserted in a certain way; thus, you can be supportive of lgbt+ rights and the rights of marginalised groups while still being vehemently “anti woke”.

Because of this conflict in definitions it’s understandable that the Twitter manager might want to use this term, and it’s understandable that people would be against it.

I feel the polarisation of this term may be being done for the drama people on both sides to farm engagement.

I mean, it seems Godot did make money from this, so I guess the Twitter helped.

I wouldn’t say it has to be money. Just that it has to be a formal exchange. I’d say the open source donation model is more “informal”.

I guess technically businesses like Microsoft were customers; I think there was something about them paying Godot to support C#.

… since when did the project have customers lol?

I think it’s the term “woke” that people considered political.

I’ll share mine too.

The community manager had a meltdown and blocking everyone was a power trip and was wrong.

Apparently they did receive a large number of tweets that genuinely warranted a ban, but some innocent people got caught in the crossfire. If this is true then Godot did the right thing by responding as neutrally as they can and giving people a way to get unbanned. If it’s not, then yeah very wrong.

Additionally, the Twitter manager apparently said some unprofessional stuff on her personal. I think there was something about her requesting a shower pic from a very large controversial streamer. I feel like that sort of action would bring attention from trolls.

Also I think there was something about a discord mod saying some dehumanising things about the “anti woke” people. Even if these people were causing trouble and deserved a ban, you shouldn’t dehumanise them. That will just make them more aggressive and convince them that “woke” people are indeed some kind of adversary.

Godot’s tweet was wrong, because it used the word “woke” which immediately drives any conversation into the gutter. Doesn’t matter if you’re on the right or left, as soon as you say the word “woke” you have ruined the conversation.

I think that word is loosely defined. To the drama people “woke/wokism” seems to relate to the idea of people aggressively wanting all media to contain pro lgbt messaging. I think the official meaning relates to awareness of modern issues. “Woke” seems to be a political term, but I suppose some people feel like calling “woke” political is harmful to lgbt rights?

I think inviting people to present their “wokot” is fine, but it probably shouldn’t be done from an official account.

It is good that Godot explicitly supports LGBT+ people. They should be welcome. The community CoC should make this explicit, and it does. A tweet to reaffirm this is fine, a cringe joke born from the dredges of Twitter is less fine.

Hard agree! Strongly agree!

Godot’s “revenge forks” are amusing and will not go anywhere. Someone might collect some donations before grifting into the night though. None of this has any effect on Godot’s technical suitability for creating a game.

Agreed. Give it a year or two. Possibly sooner. It’ll be somewhat interesting if they do go somewhere and contribute something, although I doubt that will happen.

Regardless of what happened and how it will turn out. If Godot increased their budget, even if it was in an unprofessional way, I guess this is an entirely positive thing for people who aren’t on those proprietary social platforms.

Oh. Ok. Thank you.

Thanks.

Fortunately the reactionary backlash seems to be having the opposite effect

That’s good I suppose.

I don’t care what happens on Twitter. Just so long as the codebase isn’t negatively affected.

I have been seeing some drama YouTubers, who are clearly blowing this out of proportion, talk a lot about this. One thing they’ve been saying that concerns me however, is that apparently there have been people getting banned from help forums and even the GitHub for criticism.

My understanding is that “woke” is a loosely defined political term, so I think requesting Godot be kept free from politics in response to this stuff isn’t something that should require a ban.

Perhaps there were people going too far and getting rightfully banned and some innocent people got caught in the crossfire?

There shouldn’t be any way the MIT license can discriminate between “woke” and “anti-woke”. Godot can be used by everyone. This is just making the drama people lose their credibility. Regardless of what the devs views on this situation are, I could never expect them to come to a decision on this issue so quickly. Let alone act on it. Their main priority should be the code, not the community. Unofficial communities can pop up on their own and self govern.

I think the Twitter manager is lgbt or something and wanted to promote lgbt representation. They used the term “woke” in an official tweet where they intended to achieve this.

My understanding is that “woke” is a poorly defined political term.

People apparently asked for the engine to not get political and a lot of people got banned simply for criticising the tweet. I don’t see anything particularly wrong with the tweet, nor with a lot of the criticism that apparently happened. Banning people for criticism seems very unprofessional though.

Perhaps the Twitter manager took it as people calling the existence of lgbt political? Perhaps there was a large number of troublemakers who had to get banned and some innocent people criticising the tweet got caught in the crossfire? Perhaps the Twitter manager really was acting maliciously? I don’t know what happened.
Edit: It seems it was the second one.

Apparently sponsors got banned and stopped their support, and developers got banned from the GitHub.
I don’t care about twitter drama as I don’t use twitter, I just hope that this doesn’t affect the codebase.

I’ve seen a lot of drama channels on YouTube talk about this, but I haven’t seen anything from the YouTubers who I trust to talk about FOSS yet. From what I gather, there doesn’t seem to have been any major problems yet. It just seems to be things getting blown out of proportion. People make money from clicks and engagement. Fear and rage generates clicks.

Condolences…

I hope you were able to recover.

Villager for Smash,
Mario/Rosilina for Mario kart.

… and the offender is an 8-year-old even-whiter female who was found in the forest graveyard several years ago with no discernible parents.

Yay!

Things are going well.

Hoping to see France meet the milestone since that’s where the focus of the campaign was.

I wish I could sign from the UK.

Who, other than children, do not know this yet?

Their parents, new/casual games, charity shops that might want to resell, etc.

It just slaps a big bold 'haha the fuck you isn’t even in the fine print anymore’ label on a product and makes our cyberpunk dystopia a little bit more obvious, but doesn’t achieve any useful goal in terms of altering actual game design/support or consumer rights.

True, but that would make it slightly easier for offline games, games that allow for private hosting, and games with an end of life plan that would allow it. They would be able to compete more easily if they could be easily identified. That could then incentivise companies to add end of life plans.

A step in the right direction would be great. Even if it’s a small step.

I believe another alternative would be to make it completely clear that you’re getting a temporary license. You shouldn’t be able to try to make it look like you’re buying a game when you don’t then even own.

I’ve heard of something called “Red Eclipse”, which seems to be under CC-BY-SA.

“Generate me 4096 images of pharmacy patients!”

“pharmacists seeing more patients” Implies that the queue moves quicker.
A pharmacist can only have so much time in their shift, so being able to more effectively use that time (see more people) would be a good thing.