Most people just want a good life. If we stopped seeing each other as the enemies the world could be better.
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Amen.
What the people who want to control us don’t want us to realize is that you have a lot more in common with the Chinese/Russian/Ukrainian/Mexican/Indian working class… Factory worker/programmer/hard-working house wife… Then you do with your own political leaders and billionaires. People with servants who don’t ever worry about bills. (Biden, Trump, Harris, Vance, Elon, Gates, Bezos, etc)… Don’t look at the foreigners as different and the enemy… Look at the Rich and the Politicians (who want us to blame the foreigners)
No war but class war.
I’m not sure that’s true. One side has empathy. The other does not. I don’t want to be friends with someone who doesn’t have empathy.
They see the world as a zero sum game. They can’t imagine being happy unless someone else is unhappy.
I kind of see your point there. My hope though is that maybe people could gain more empathy for each other by understanding that we are all human and I hope that one day people can understand each other’s struggles.
The world is not binary like that. Your side is not all good and the other side is not all bad.
I didn’t say they were “all bad.” I said they lacked empathy and I wasn’t interested in being friends with them.
Conservative and progressive brains are different.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/conservative-and-liberal-brains-might-have-some-real-differences/And one of those differences is empathy. https://academic.oup.com/scan/article/18/1/nsad029/7175525
Ive been down both sides of the indoctrination rabbit hole both the alt left and the alt right pipelines lead to the same place.
Ya, I’m not talking about extremists. I’m talking about just normal everyday people.
One side has empathy. The other does not.
You generalized as if everyone on the left has empathy and no one on the right does. That’s simply not true. Group differences like this are often larger within the group than between them. While it might be true that, on average, people on the right are less empathetic than those on the left, it’s neither fair nor accurate to imply that one side has empathy and the other doesn’t.
Eh. Fits with what I see in politics, the folks voting for right winger, and my own experiences conversing with them IRL. I see no issue with making that assumption and then being pleasantly surprised the odd time it isn’t true.
Maybe it’s a North America thing, tho. It’s quite possible that the euro flavor of right wing is a more empathetic group.
One would need empathy to see it that way ;)
Empathy is something that can be learned like any ability, it isn’t always a binary you have it or you don’t.
Paradox of tolerance
Every molecule that makes up our entire existence came from the fusion of a hot star, and no matter what it looks like right now, it will once again be both the precursor and the product of many more stars.
In that regard we are all identical and inconsequential.
Some are fascists. Some are not. That’s a pretty big distinction.
Actually, I’m special. The right told me my parents told me so.
I’m more special. I look down on you derisively.
Exactly what someone who’s just like everyone else would say tbh
I’m so much more like everybody else than you.
Bro is an amalgamation of people LMAO 🤣
Yup we’re all idiots
This is true, but some of us are actually very different. That’s not always a bad thing, either.
No. Some people want to control other people because of their various sky daddies or a simple greed. And those are the ones fucking up your life. Everyone else could more or less get along, but fanatics, billionaires and other people hungry for control of others are actively make sure we don’t.
fanatics
Half of Lemmy users included in that group
nah.
I can’t have empathy for fuckheads that want to kill and imprison people based on their sexual preferences or their identity.
I refuse to subject myself to the torture of “working together” with people with fascist ideologies.
I cannot, and will not, coexist with Nazis.
I think op meant more along the lines of normal, everyday people, not radical extremists who hate everyone that isn’t like them.
and by normal, I mean non hate driven people. I believe everyone is weird in some way, there is no “normal”.
the way I described it to my son is everyone has the same right to be happy as he does, you don’t get to dictate that to anyone. we love you for your weirdness and expect the same for anyone else.
Most people seem to want others not to have a good life, ignoring or disregarding the effects that might have on themselves.
Many if not most would sacrifice their own wellbeing if that guarantees that “the right people” will also suffer. They see the world as a zero sum game, and can’t conceive the possibility of having a good life if others aren’t having a bad one.
Most people suck, often to the point of being monstrous by any decent definition.
most
Source?
I’m pushing back on this viewpoint wherever I’m seeing it. Humans are certainly flawed in a lot of ways, especially in how easy it can be to mislead us, but this cynical worldview that most people are actively wanting others to hurt is not based in reality. Honestly it sounds like me when I was in the depths of depression.
I think we have a major problem with how we share and consume news. Stories are shared as screen-capped headlines that emphasize the Bad thing that happened, and even if you find the original article, it’s stuffed with ads that make you not want to bother. Random one-off bad/stupid things that one person did somewhere far away are reported as world news without statistics and context.
The result? Increasing cynicism. The good, uplifting stories rarely come through. People begin to base their worldview and how they interact with other people on this “fact” that most people suck. This culminates in them becoming the thing that they think everyone is - they go through life scared of or angry at other people by default.
It isn’t an inevitability. Maybe I’m wrong, but believing in people is a much better existence, even when they occasionally let me down.
Source?
I mean… [ gestures broadly at everything ]
Yeah checks out for Lemmy
Problem is that people are fairly easily told that their less-than-optimal situation is the fault of those people, regardless of it being true or not.
- maga republicans stalling legislation to protect americans
- maga republicans forcing legislation to take away human rights given to 80% of the world
- maga republicans publicly releasing a book on who they hate and how they will make them criminals to be imprisoned or killed
- maga republicans lying about how that book, “totally isn’t our thing”
- maga republicans coming out after winning the election saying, “oh yeah, that book is totally our thing”
I mean, I could go on, but I don’t think I need to for my point.
People aren’t telling me how horrible they are. THEY are telling me how terrible they are.
This is something we all need to remember
Have empathy and realize that people can have there own views. They aren’t dumb because they disagree with you
And someone says they are a trump supporter and suddenly its all just calling everyone a fascist time.
You know what, you’re totally right. There’s plenty of other accurate single-word descriptions that could be used to add some more variety:
Shortsighted, dogmatist, sociopath, mysognist, bootlicker, Neanderthal, degenerate, cultist, egotistical, simpleton, supremacist, etc.
U and the other 7 people who downvoted really did miss op’s point lol.
OP says everyone just wants to have a good life, you come in an intentionally antagonize people. It’s pretty clear who missed the point.
Yep. And a classic case of someone dishing it out without being able to take it. If someone wants to be an antagonistic jerk, they don’t have the right to be shocked Pikachu and pretend to have the moral high ground when their attitude is met in kind.
They get really mad when you point out that Harris is also fascist by there definition.
In reality they are in a echo chamber where they only see good things about Harris and bad things about Trump
Democrats can be considered fascists by their own definition, but let’s not pretend MAGA is any less of an echo chamber. On zero hands, I can count the number of times that a MAGA member actually knew anything about gender affirming healthcare while arguing with me why it shouldn’t exist.
The only thing that should matter is the candidates representing both sides are corrupt trash that put the interests of their multimillionaire friends and corporate lobbyists over their own constituents.
I don’t see MAGA people as the enemy because they want to pay less in taxes. I see them as the enemy because they don’t think my kids should exist in society and are actively passing legislation to make it so.
Delete this shit take.
It may be more directed at them than you.
Something will be directed at them if they don’t knock this shit off.
Username checks out
