A Missouri high school teacher has been placed on leave after officials discovered that she was performing on a pornography website to supplement her salary. And while she says her teaching days are probably over, she acknowledges that she knew the risks.
She was teaching high school. Those kids would get access to her videos one way or another. Do you honestly feel like that’s a healthy situation for anyone involved? I understand your perspective, and in almost every other profession it would not be a problem, but in real life, you don’t put kids in a situation like that, it’s not okay.
I’m not advocating enforcing any “conservative” ideals. I’m not sure where you all lost sight of the fact we’re talking about children, here. They are not in a place in life where they can make healthy distinctions about sex like you and I can. They should be focused on other kids their own age. If you introduce a sexual angle into the power dynamic of a teacher/student relationship, how on Earth is that going to improve the child’s life in any way? The kids’ lives are what we should be focused on, here, right?
Anyways, you can get mad all you want at my, frankly, appropriate and reasonable viewpoint here. The teacher herself stated she knows she cannot do both at once. Like, she knows that. She’s not asking for you or anyone else to come gallivanting to her defense because, as a teacher, she understands it’s not appropriate.
Well you sure as hell aren’t going to hear any arguments from me on that one. I think that’s the real story, here. That woman was making an embarrassingly small salary for her service. Missourians should be ashamed of themselves.
Sadly, the low pay for teachers is pretty pervasive across the entire US. My first teaching job paid $36k per year in Wisconsin in 2013. Luckily, rent wasn’t quite so expensive back then, but it’s still an outrageously low income for what is expected from teachers. I don’t know a single teacher who either doesn’t have a second job or a spouse that makes quite a bit of money.
If everyone saw the president doing porn I imagine that would impact how people engaged with him politically.
That being said, I do feel like you are treating the symptom and not the source.
Teachers are not using work like porn for freedom of expression, they are doing it to put a roof over their heads. It’s meant to supplement income that is not part of their primary source: Teaching.
So long as we pay teachers a poverty level, I don’t think we can debate the morality of survival. Or punish them for the inaction of politicians.
Look, I’m not going to argue. People are incredibly emotional about this and it’s exhausting. What I’m expressing are not “my ideals.” I don’t give a fuck about stupid sex work. Like, at all. But a lot of people are taking a very adult oriented view on this and not thinking about the kids’ rights to have a safe relationships with adults that are not complicated by sex. Go ahead and down vote and say what you will, my stance is not radical or strange. Being a teacher doesn’t mean you need to live a chaste life, but the kids come first and if something you do outside of school directly affects your students, you should probably consider a different career. That’s why teaching requires a license, there are ethical standards that need to be followed. It’s definitely not for everyone and that’s why no one is forcing anyone to be a teacher.
Also, the teacher from the article agrees she cannot do both at once, probably because she understands it’s not an appropriate situation. You all are furious with me, but I’m not really sure who you think you’re arguing for.
She was teaching high school. Those kids would get access to her videos one way or another. Do you honestly feel like that’s a healthy situation for anyone involved? I understand your perspective, and in almost every other profession it would not be a problem, but in real life, you don’t put kids in a situation like that, it’s not okay.
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Calm down
I’m not advocating enforcing any “conservative” ideals. I’m not sure where you all lost sight of the fact we’re talking about children, here. They are not in a place in life where they can make healthy distinctions about sex like you and I can. They should be focused on other kids their own age. If you introduce a sexual angle into the power dynamic of a teacher/student relationship, how on Earth is that going to improve the child’s life in any way? The kids’ lives are what we should be focused on, here, right?
Anyways, you can get mad all you want at my, frankly, appropriate and reasonable viewpoint here. The teacher herself stated she knows she cannot do both at once. Like, she knows that. She’s not asking for you or anyone else to come gallivanting to her defense because, as a teacher, she understands it’s not appropriate.
Best thing we can do to help the children is to pay teachers substantially more. Until then, things like this will keep happening.
Well you sure as hell aren’t going to hear any arguments from me on that one. I think that’s the real story, here. That woman was making an embarrassingly small salary for her service. Missourians should be ashamed of themselves.
Sadly, the low pay for teachers is pretty pervasive across the entire US. My first teaching job paid $36k per year in Wisconsin in 2013. Luckily, rent wasn’t quite so expensive back then, but it’s still an outrageously low income for what is expected from teachers. I don’t know a single teacher who either doesn’t have a second job or a spouse that makes quite a bit of money.
In some ways, I do think you are right.
If everyone saw the president doing porn I imagine that would impact how people engaged with him politically.
That being said, I do feel like you are treating the symptom and not the source.
Teachers are not using work like porn for freedom of expression, they are doing it to put a roof over their heads. It’s meant to supplement income that is not part of their primary source: Teaching.
So long as we pay teachers a poverty level, I don’t think we can debate the morality of survival. Or punish them for the inaction of politicians.
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“Think of the children” is literally what a teacher’s job is.
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Look, I’m not going to argue. People are incredibly emotional about this and it’s exhausting. What I’m expressing are not “my ideals.” I don’t give a fuck about stupid sex work. Like, at all. But a lot of people are taking a very adult oriented view on this and not thinking about the kids’ rights to have a safe relationships with adults that are not complicated by sex. Go ahead and down vote and say what you will, my stance is not radical or strange. Being a teacher doesn’t mean you need to live a chaste life, but the kids come first and if something you do outside of school directly affects your students, you should probably consider a different career. That’s why teaching requires a license, there are ethical standards that need to be followed. It’s definitely not for everyone and that’s why no one is forcing anyone to be a teacher.
Also, the teacher from the article agrees she cannot do both at once, probably because she understands it’s not an appropriate situation. You all are furious with me, but I’m not really sure who you think you’re arguing for.
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Shuuuut up