U.S. President Joe Biden arrived in Israel on Wednesday pledging solidarity in its war against Hamas and backing its account that a blast that killed huge numbers of Palestinians at a Gaza hospital had been caused by militants.
The fireball that engulfed the Al-Ahli al-Arabi hospital delivered some of the most harrowing images yet from a 12-day war, and wrecked White House plans for Biden’s emergency diplomatic mission to the Middle East, with Arab leaders calling off their planned summit with the U.S. president.
Palestinian officials blamed an Israeli air strike for the blast, which it said had killed as many as 500 people. Israel said the blast was caused by a failed rocket launch by the Palestinian Islamic Jihad militant group, which denied blame.
Speaking alongside Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Biden said: “I was deeply saddened and outraged by the explosion of the hospital in Gaza yesterday, and based on what I’ve seen, it appears as though it was done by the other team, not you.”
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What a shallow life you lead.
People a fucking dying here dude, we want proof so we know if theres a cut and dry reason to force israel to back off on the bombings due to civilian death.
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Not to say proof is unnecessary, but that’s been the case for a while now.
It’s the scope of this. This is effectively the equivalent of the Hamas attack, if Israel is responsible. Killing 600 people in an airstrike on a hospital during a war is “equivalent” to a terrorist attack killing and kidnapping a hundred people.
Hardline proof of a war crime would make a large number of countries turn on israel pretty quick. Especially given how many are already speaking up about their actions.
Thats why theyre so insistant that theyre not at fault. Because if they are, theyre going to lose a lot of free money and support globally.
They’ve targeted fleeing civilians along routes they designated as safe. And bombed locations they told Palestinians to evacuate to. And used white phosphorus. I believe these all qualify as war crimes.
Theyre all debatably excusable, and thus wont be considered a war crime until an international court argues it out after the fact. Israel has “excuses” for those events.
There isnt an excuse for this. Which is why theyre blaming someone else.
And by saying that you have already made it clear that you just view the dead as a tool. In your moral high ground, you make it clear that their death only had meaning if it means you can blame the IDF for it. Which was the “shallow” argument being made.
Believe it or not: you don’t have to have a take or choose a side on every single thing that happens in the world. And you can also wait a day or two until more information is known.
Or you can just shit on the memory of dead civilians unless they support your narrative. Works pretty well for the IDF and Hamas.
Youre an idiot, bud.
Proof of an israeli war crime would cause a global loss of support for israel. It would very likely stop israels nonstop bombing of gaza.
Knowing if israel is at fault or not is the difference between another round of deaths via horrid explosion.
If Israel did it, I think we’ll see several Western powers condemn it and stop their support. It’s uncertain what the US would do since we currently have a non functional legislative branch.
If it’s a failed Hamas attack, I think we may see Arab countries get involved to take them out, which should hopefully translate to more safety for the Palestinians. Alternatively, criticism of Israel sharply decreases, and they use that to strike even more with impunity:/.
Ah yes, sympathizing with innocent victims who were almost certainly bombed by Israel is just to bolster talking points. Not to call out obvious war crimes. If it weren’t Israel, they wouldn’t have deleted their “evidence” in the form of video analysis they posted briefly until they were called out for it being obvious bullshit.
I am not going to disagree with you, I feel like that deserves a some semblance of gravity of the situation. This isn’t a zero sum game, but we have already committed to those rules.
But at the end of the day, debating is all we can do. As I doubt most of us here have the power to stop what is happening. We have to wait until both sides have had enough. Only they can decide when that is.
Overall, my only complaint is that the only evidence that could be shown on this situation, was a 240p 15 second video from 20 km away, of a missile intercept by a patriot system.
We give 5 billion taxpayer funded dollars a year for intel on the region and this is the best they can do to clear up the situation?
Have you considered that many people here pay taxes to governments that send billions to Isreal so if it was Isreal not only do our countires share some of the blame but that also means we should vote for peole who would reign in Isreali agression and spending. Thats probably also why you see more critisizing of Isreal, because that’s something we can actually change. My government doesn’t fund or really engage with Hamas or PIJ so there’s not much more we can do but condem the taking of innocent life, which just about everyone already did.
I’m excited for people to realize that Hamas does not, in fact, give a shit at all about Palestinians and are not a “resistance” movement of “freedom fighters.”
So yeah, blowing up a hospital because they kept fucking bombs near or in it would do wonders for that.
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The question implied wasn’t “do you feel sympathy for victims of this” but rather “why are you so concerned about who did it”
I also didn’t tell you my favorite color, while we’re on the subject of unrelated topics.
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They’re unrelated to the topic you were discussing, which is why people are so passionate about the truth here.
The implied reason they care is that killing a bunch of civilians at a hospital is such an obviously horrific big deal that the party responsible will rightfully be held accountable.
The problem with your take is that the only reason people are fired up about this at all is because it is a big deal, and they’re assuming everyone is on the same page and you’re still reading the cover of the book
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