I’ve been trying to find a good Marxist instance, but Lemmygrad and Hexbear are widely hated. Why is that? Are there any good leftist instances?

  • Garfield@lemm.ee
    3626·
    1 year ago

    end up being so “anti-racism” that they’re racists themselves

    anyone complaining about “reverse racism” or “anti white racism” is a complete joke. like boo fucking hoo, someone called you a cracker on the internet, get over it.

    • PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml
      138·
      1 year ago

      That isn’t what they are talking about, hopefully. But if it is, I agree, a hearty “lol” is in order.

      • Garfield@lemm.ee
        63·
        1 year ago

        they replied confirming to me that what they were complaining about was in fact racism against white people, given that it seems to be a pretty common bit on lemmygrad to call people crackers and compare them to that kid who went onto fox news to complain about his face being photoshopped onto a picture of a ritz cracker by left wing students at his university that seems to be what they were complaining about

        edit: i found a picture of the guy

    • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
      1417·
      1 year ago

      Racism has a definition that’s fairly easy to understand and yes people of all colors can be victims and even people of the same skin colour can be racists against one another because racism isn’t necessarily about the color of your skin, it can be about your ethnicity.

      Racism:

      prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.

      Ethnicity:

      the quality or fact of belonging to a population group or subgroup made up of people who share a common cultural background or descent.

      If you had taken a crowd of anonymous Germans all dressed the same in 1935, how would you have told who was a Jew and who wasn’t? You wouldn’t have been able to because they were all just white people.

      What do you call it when 100 years ago in a first world white country the population that speaks one official language has an infant mortality rate comparable to that of colonial Africa while the population that speaks the other official language and lives in the same cities has an infant mortality rate comparable to any other first world nation?

      Was the Rwanda genocide not racism because it was two groups with the same skin colour? What about what happened in Yugoslavia?

      My white friend who went to China to study had to sit through multiple explanations by many Chinese student of the levels of intelligence being affected by skin colour and ethnicity and guess what, whites weren’t at the top! “All white people are dumber than Indians who are dumber than Koreans who are dumber than Chinese.” Are you telling me that isn’t racism against white people (and anyone that isn’t Chinese)? Because I sure would hope someone would call me a racist if I was saying the same thing about people of another skin colour or ethnicity!

      • ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml
        192·
        1 year ago

        you see i have pulled out the dictionary definition of racism and also an annecdote about how a country colonized by white people for centuries can actually be racist against my white friend for calling him a ‘cracker’, defeating your arguement

      • v12riceburner@lemmygrad.ml
        144·
        1 year ago

        Racism is not easy to understand and you’re definitely not going to get a clear understanding of it from reading a definition especially if you’re white. I suggest you read some books. Good heavens maybe your racist Chinese friend is right.

        Edit I hear this is a good book

        White fragility by Robin diangelo

        • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
          67·
          1 year ago

          So you’re saying that what the Jews were victim of during WW2 wasn’t racism? Because they certainly were white!

          How about the Irish? The deportation of Acadians? French Canadians seeing their language becoming illegal to teach in Manitoba? The Yugoslav wars?

          By your logic it’s also impossible to be racist towards Chinese and Japanese because man, let me tell you, they can be racist as fuck towards everyone else and they were the ones in power on their side of the world for centuries!

          Racism has a definition and it’s a bad thing no matter who the victim is.

          • CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml
            81·
            1 year ago

            European Jews were not considered white before and during WW2. Whiteness has always changed with whatever we needed it to be for political reasons. The Irish were not considered white. In South Africa during Apartheid, a Japanese national was forbidden by a bus driver from entering a whites-only bus because the driver thought he was Chinese. The man sued and won against the driver as the Japanese were considered white and allowed to board segregated buses.

            • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
              610·
              1 year ago

              It’s funny how it’s always the same whenever you’re confronted to arguments. You just insult the other party and leave the scene like you were a hero.

              Also very funny you should call me a cracker when you don’t know what’s my origin, you just assume I’m white because you would be unable to accept that someone not white could realize that racism goes all ways.