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    In my experience as a sysadmin, corporate structure almost always sees workers as liabilities that must be micromanaged, prodded, and scrutinized in regards to productivity, regardless of profits.

    A good manager who wants happy, productive workers that don’t quietly work against their employer knows when NOT to enforce the standard corporate HR patronizing infantilizing bullshit.

    It sounds like you’ve either worked for small organizations or had good managers that recognize the reality that skillled workers like you are more competent and important to keeping the paychecks flowing than the connected narcissistic idiots on the top floor that get off on flexing power and barking irrational dictates just to hear themselves bark.

    Remember, the workers make and do everything that keeps the world running. The scientists and engineers do the inventing and discovering. The capitalist owners just take all the money and the social credit, they don’t actually do or know anything that benefits anyone but themselves. Even their supposed “charity” is usually used as an excuse to get praise while robbing the commons of owed tax revenue by writing it off, which makes it a transaction, not charity at all. Charity is giving and expecting nothing in return, save a warm fuzzy feeling inside. And they often “donate” to arts and political causes, while the victims of the society they bleed dry and leave to crumble die of exposure to the elements in tent cities.

    Steve Jobs, who made like he was prometheus bringing the iPhone down from Olympus, couldn’t have repaired a broken iPhone with access to every lab, component, and schematic in Silicon valley, a month, and a gun to his head. He wasn’t even smart enough to go to real doctors and take real medicine when he was dying.

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      Pulling together all the resources and ideas to make something happen is itself a valid skill. They’re way overpaid for it, but it is real work.

      Steve Jobs, in particular, created with help the original Mac and was screwed over by other powerful people in the business. He created the Mach kernel and the NeXT workstation before Apple crawled back to him for help salvaging the business.

      He might have been an arrogant prick, but he did have the ability to bring vision into reality, and he helped make a lot of people other than himself wealthy.

      We have this thing called specialization in modern society. Do you think an electrician can design and produce a microchip or a math teacher can manage a large corporate entity? We all make choices. Some of us have more options or more help.

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        Pulling together all the resources and ideas to make something happen is itself a valid skill.

        The accountants and lawyers pull together resources to make something happen, and are the ones that do all of the math and all the legal research to see if something can happen, the one that barked the order didn’t. And as for ideas, the world would be a better place if that was left to the scientists, developers, craftspeople, and engineers that have the beneficial ones that might actually create or improve something of worth.

        “Turn a product you could buy into a subscription you have to rent” has been the most widely implemented “idea” the modern CEO has been inspired to have, aside from laying off the people that made them their money the same week they report record profits. If you call that a skill of any positive use to society, then we’ll just have to agree to disagree.

        And Steve jobs wasn’t just a shitty marketing grifter who pretended he was some titan of invention, he was also a notoriously shitty person off the clock. It’s sad people look up to a wealthy man who let his child subsist on welfare simply because he could.

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          And yet, he’s the one who got those products to the public, and many love them. I’m not fond of Apple, but I have to acknowledge success. I’m not claiming he’s a good person. Heck I agree with much you said, but being a business leader is a legitimate role and requires real skills.

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            And yet, he’s the one who got those products to the public

            Factory workers, retail workers, delivery people got those products to the public. Steve jobs didn’t.

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              Yep, and they were just about to do it when that scumbag stole their thunder, right? They had the entire design all set and came together as a collective to make it happen, and Jobs stepped in and stole all the money and credit!

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                Yes, he and the little owner’s club did indeed steal the workers thunder, as our intentionally rigged economy is designed to maintain in perpetuity. The iphone was just the latest cycle of keeping the workers separated from the means of production, aka meaningful capital required for R&D and manufacturing.

                Steve Jobs’ “skill” was being receptive to repeating the vicious cycle of giving almost all the profits of products his engineers developed to the people who already exploited/coerced/stole the worker’s money last time and the time before that in exchange for his class traitor cut (I guess he saw his daughter as an externality he didn’t need to worry about) for selling out the other people like him that didn’t come from wealth, which just propagates the little owner’s club having more while ensuring the non-owners continue to not benefit from what they invent, discover, build, transport. They have the ideas and do the work, and then the small population with enough ill gotten capital to commission the machines get the vast majority of the capital profit… yet again, ad infinitum.

                I’m sorry that impresses you, but of course the major media the oligarchs own and the K-Colleges of Economics curriculum they dictate indoctrinates most Americans to find their grift very impressive. He pulled himself up by his bootstraps!

                https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/18/the-wealthiest-10percent-of-americans-own-a-record-89percent-of-all-us-stocks.html

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                  I don’t have to click the link because I know about that already. I’m not justifying the greed, just acknowledging the reality. There are people with these skills who are not self-serving. We likely agree on many things, but I work with reason, not ideology. I also try to avoid insulting people for telling me things I don’t like unless they are insulting, of course.

                  Here’s something you won’t like - Marxism does not work, for the same reason the 1% collect all the wealth. Greed is a human condition.