Germany knows a thing or two about genocide so it’s surprising they’re not seeing it in Gaza.
Germany is so ashamed of its history that no Israel atrocity can change that.
They’re not ashamed. Germans still hate Jews. The initial plan Hitler had was to move all the Jews to Madagascar.
The Madagascar Plan was a plan proposed by the Nazi German government to forcibly relocate the Jewish population of Europe to the island of Madagascar. Franz Rademacher proposed the idea in June 1940
The Zionist thing is an easy excuse to make the Palestinians responsible for German crimes. Germany doesn’t want israelis moving back.
The second reason Germany is simping this hard is that Germany wants Intel, which is an israeli company, to build more chip factories there. Thus they have to bow their heads to Zionists. Buy AMD kids.
The idea of setting up Israel as a state was so that they could send the Jewish people there because it was thought that they would never be able to integrate into European society, iirc.
Buy AMD kids.
Oh, AMD sells kids now?
Intel was founded by Americans in America and is, to this day, american.
I think they are calling them weak. I figured it would be but when you put it in comparison we are almost there but not quite to the same level
Is it possible that my opinion about Israel is wrong? No, it must be Germany who is wrong!
Yeah… sure… because Israel has been acting so nicely for decades now
Indeed they do and they acknowledge their history, and why this doesn’t apply:
In light of German history and the crimes against humanity of the Shoah, the German government is particularly committed to the (UN) Genocide Convention," signed in 1948 in the wake of the Holocaust, Hebestreit said.
He said the Convention marked a “central instrument” under international law to prevent another Holocaust.
For this reason, he said, “we stand firmly against a political instrumentalisation” of the Convention.
Hebestreit acknowledged diverging views in the international community on Israel’s military operation in Gaza.
“However the German government decisively and expressly rejects the accusation of genocide brought against Israel before the International Court of Justice,” he said. “The accusation has no basis in fact.”Seems like they got it right.
They didn’t actually present any argument that this isn’t a genocide, nor did they even try to address anything the South African delegation have presented. This is state speech for “nuh uh”, so the only reason you could see that “they got it right” was if you just liked their conclusion.
That’s not how the legal system almost anywhere works, and especially not at the ICC.
It’s the prosecution that had to present evidence for their claims.
The South African government presented evidence, and this German statement does not address it, aside from dismissing it as “political”. I have no experience with ICC’s laws, but I would suppose that calling the prosecution “political” is not a valid defense in the ICC bylaws.
South Africa you say? Is that the same South Africa that visited Bucha and still had little to nothing to say about genocide?
Not saying anything about genocide in Gaza or not but fuck South Africa for the lack of action when it fits their business ties with Russia.
I agree with their conclusion, yes. When both sides of the conflict that the genocide statutes were written to address say that this is not a genocide, I find that very compelling.
Nazi Germany’s extermination camps are not the only genocides in history, nor does either entity have a special say in what a genocide is. Calling modern Germany the “side” of the Nazis is incredibly offensive, nor is Israel the “side” of the Jewish people. There are plenty of Jews around the world who have lost family in the Holocaust who very much do believe the term does apply.
Calling modern Germany the “side” of the Nazis is incredibly offensive
Well they consider themselves to be atoning for it to this day and accept responsibility, as per the quote above. If you’ve ever been to Germany they don’t shy away from the connection or deny that the Nazis were German.
There are plenty of Jews around the world who have lost family in the Holocaust who very much do believe the term does apply.
A minority opinion, to be sure.
Citation would be nice on that last one.
Can’t find any statistics of “Jews around the world who have lost family in the Holocaust” but only 22% of American Jews agree with that statement as of 2021.
It’s unfortunate then that nazi parties are popular again now in Germany.
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They learned nothing.
… There’s a Nazi joke in there somewhere.
The joke is that the jews in Israel are taking plays right out of the nazi handbook while Germany bends over backwards to appease these people.
But I’m not seeing it.
