• SCB@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    The average person is the reason Amazon exists, so… That’s still on the average person.

    This is what people miss in this false dichotomy. Businesses only exist because demand exists. Countries need to start passing unpopular things like Carbon Taxes to seal the deal against climate change by hitting consumer demand and raising prices

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      1 year ago

      Oddly enough, without changing buying habits or consumer demand, I think the Amazon truck is a superior option.

      • Instead of thousands of individual trips to the store for small things, a single vehicle delivers everything
      • Instead of many hyper-local stores packed with things that may or may not eventually be sold, only things that have been purchased are shipped and transported

      The trick, as you said, is to change consumer behavior and people balk at doing that, especially when it will cost more and income inequality hits harder than ever. Tax the rich, level the playing field, and the rest gets much easier.

      • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Instead of many hyper-local stores packed with things that may or may not eventually be sold, only things that have been purchased are shipped and transported

        Yeah but Amazon mixes up its inventory so cheap copies are right next to genuine stuff.

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      I’m not demanding products which harm the environment made using methods which harm the environment. Businesses make the choice to produce those things instead of carbon-neutral environmentally friendly products, so they are more at fault than the individual who buys the thing. It’s extremely difficult for an individual to be able to uncover the environmental implications of everything you buy and do. The only real solution is to pass laws which properly account for the harmful externalities in the production cost, such as carbon tax. That will steer both businesses and consumers towards more sustainable decisions.

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        1 year ago

        I also am demanding similar products, which is why capital has already shifted (and continues to shift) toward green/sustainables.

        We don’t need laws to provide for externalities of consumption in most markets. Most markets are being changed by consumer demand.

        What would be most effective is carbon pricing. Unfortunately, that is a non-starter with most voters as it essentially means price increases across the board (which would actually be more helpful during inflation, but people never see it that way)

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          1 year ago

          Yeah, I wonder how big that capital shift actually is. Most companies are greenwashing, saying products are sustainable and carbon neutral when surprise, surprise, they are not. As a consumer you can’t even trust those products. As a small example you got H&M recently pulling back they Conscious line and lying about recyling clothes that actually ended up in landfills.

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            1 year ago

            Yeah capital doesn’t support green washing.

            You should dig into it and learn more. It’s cool to see the market at work in such a big way.

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      1 year ago

      Be real mate. Thats not how it works.

      Suppliers create the demand.

      People werent demanding smartphones before smartphones got invented.

      Most new things are shunned by most people until they slowly gain popularity and then the demand starts to exist.

      You are stating the hypothesis of capitalism whilst ignoring the conclusion.

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        1 year ago

        Suppliers do not create demand lol

        Some of us were adults in 08 when lack of demand crippled the world

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          1 year ago

          I was 21. I remember.

          Im not saying demand doesnt fuel supply.

          Im only saying supply can create demand.

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            1 year ago

            Supply can create demand

            Sure, with very specialized things like highways.

            Not for most goods. In no way is that how money is spent within a company.