Plex & Sex > Netflix & Chill
Soon to be “Jellyfin & Get it in”
oouuuu maybe it’s time for me to decentralize everything.
I’m still riding Emby, but it feels like they’re also stagnating, with it taking forever(literal years) to implement some seemingly simple features. Too many times have I looked up some desired minor feature just to find out they said on the forums back in 2019 that they’re working on it. That pace might be forgivable if they were a non-profit open-source project, but they ditched open-source a while ago and have paying customers. It’s getting ridiculous.
Because of the layoffs or did I miss something else?
I switched over to Jellyfin about a month ago. Plex had just gotten too bloated and for me the performance had been getting worse for awhile. Jellyfin feels like the Plex of years past. No nonsense and works really well.
How’s the android app and casting to Chromecast? If you know… I struggle the most with casting and controlling casted material as well as scrubbing while casting.
it’s not brilliant but then nothing really is. you just get used to it’s little quirks.
if you want something that just works use a UPnP media server with VLC
Thanks for the reply. I have used VLC forever and here and there for casting. Mostly it’s my parents using Plex that I’m trying to simplify for them. Not sure if jellyfin would help them lol
Same all movies and tv went to . Though still using plexamp for music.
Yeah, just speculation on my part. Layoffs plus all the weird features they’ve been putting out lately. Better to have an alternative ready in case something happens.
what’s the difference between jelly and jam?
I can’t jelly my dick in her.
omg this caught me off guard
omg this got me off hard*
FTFY
Jellyfin is a 100% free and open source, but you can only stream stuff you already have downloaded, so you don’t get that love tv stuff on Plex
Personally I don’t use the love TV stuff, and I prefer jellyfin because it’s free and open source with no Plex pass bs
Can someone convince me why jellyfin is better? Keep in mind I’m a lifetime plex pass user. And I have plex stuffed full of plugins like audnexus and YouTube metadata downloader so I can use plex as an audible service and repository for my favourite YouTube series’ or automatically pulling down YouTube podcasts and having all the metadata auto fill.
I also use the watch together feature to watch things with a friend often and an attractive sleek UI matters more than it should.
I prefer to use foss on my servers, can’t trust proprietary stuff
Do you know if you can run it on a Fire Stick?
I have jellyfin on my firestick and fireTV. No sideloading required.
Nice, thanks.
Anything that works on Android TV (also called Leanback) will also work on a Fire Stick.
good to know. ty
You can
I have used the jellyfin app on the fire tv stick, its even on the store and works great!
Thank you for giving me a new line I can use to make my fiancée roll her eyes lol
Kodi and cuckold… Oh hang on
Joke’s on you. I am into that.
Kodi and kopulate
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Jellyfin and sin
Plexplay is my favorite fetish.
Plex is killing itself now, time to move on
Seed and… seed?
Tor and wh.or.e
Shit I just posted that.
Pilfer and pump.
uTorrent (pronounce micro torrent) and micro…. Nevermind…
Seed and leach that… torrent.
Sneed’s Feed & Seed
formerly Chuck’s
Prices going up? Password hard to share? Embrace tradition. Return to pirate ship.
Oh, I had her docked and ready, just in case.
😏
The reason why people put uTorrent in memes is due to its recognition, let’s change this, always create memes with qBittorrent
You say uTorrent, I say µTorrent. We are not the same ;P
EDIT: I get µ from [Ctrl] + [Alt] + [m] (or [Alt Gr] + [m]), in case someone wants to be able to do it easily themselves. It might be different on your keyboard…
qBittorrent does not have a nice web UI for mobile. We should create memes with Transmission instead
You can install a custom web UI.
https://github.com/qbittorrent/qBittorrent/wiki/List-of-known-alternate-WebUIs
I did this a while back, and while the alt I tested was great on mobile it didn’t offer the functionally I like to use with the built in UI.
I wanted to split mobile/desktop traffic, which I imagine is relatively straightforward if you have a decent amount of web dev experience, but alas I do not.
Do you usually see mobile versions of uTorrent in memes?
Unlike some, I never took off my pirate hat. That’s been me the whole time.
Except for the whole not being alone thing.
I mixed piracy with s couple of tge larger streaming sites for a while. I’m 99% piracy now. (technically have prime video, but don’t watch it)
I use the streaming services I have for unrelated reasons (included with something else usually) in a half-hearted attempt to support the creators, but I will pirate most viewing media (TV + movies) by default now.
I had access to everything legit and still mainly sailed the high seas. I just prefer to have all the content centralised and local.
My wife used to prefer the streaming apps but she really converted and thought I was a genius when we went for 2 months with constant isp internet drops for hours at a time.
Depends on whats on deck! Aye!
Netflix, Reddit, Twitter, YouTube, Google…
The enshittification is going full steam ahead.
This but radarr/sonar
Sure if you want your filenames out of your control and at the whims of databases run by no intelligent person at all.
You caim people that wrote complex open source applications are not intelligent at all because it has one thing you dislike, but can’t set Docker up to solve the issue? RTFM
Sonarr destroyed my one piece folder by renaming things incorrectly. Also sites like the TV db and anidb mislabel season numbers on a lot of anime lately. So my beef is mostly anime based and against the databases that sonarr uses, not sonarr itself.
You could always create an account and contribute the correct information to these databases.
I have tried and was, the first time, turned down and told I was incorrect. When the next season came out for the same show, I submitted again for correction and got zero response. Similar for another show where the show’s single season that had a break had its second half called “season 2” (happens a ton lately, infuriating), I also got no response. And that’s TV db. Don’t get me started on anidb later. They fucking divided the two halves of that show as well, but not into two seasons… INTO TWO SHOWS. So now the second half of the single season of “Mobile Suit Gundam: The Witch From Mercury” on anidb is a whole other show entry and is named “Mobile Suit Gundam: The Witch From Mercury (2023)” - fucking maddening. And applications like Plex rely on those kinds of databases for sorting things. And naming things. And similarly, sonarr uses them for renaming your files to fit the format you set up. And it’s also not 100% smart on some stuff. Sure, “one_piece_207.avi”, let me rename you as One Piece - S02E07.avi that will be fabulous.
Sure, “one_piece_207.avi”, let me rename you as One Piece - S02E07.avi that will be fabulous
Is it One Piece episode #207 or something? Because, in the realm of pirated TV, “207” literally is season 2 episode 7. Always has been.
Correct, and there were ways in place that was supposed to allow sonarr to understand absolute numbering, similar to another agent plugin I use for Plex that gives it that understanding. The file formatting for sonarr can even include {absolute} for this use case. I was numbering these files, hoping to rename them with episode titles plus the {absolute} as well as S{season00}E{episode00} (can’t recall the exact code), but anyway… Despite everyone in this thread calling me an idiot, I know I made no error other than not backing up first.
You mean you used sonarr to rename things incorrectly. Sonarr didn’t do anything other than exactly what you told it to.
I understand you want to defend something that you enjoy. That is fine. The program completely misinterpreted the filenames as they were with absolute numbering and erroneously assigned incorrect filenames, such as making episode 201 into S02E01. I set the format and trusted it to uniformly rename. It failed at that. You can still enjoy it. I’ve found an app called Filebot that seems to do better interpretation and allow more freedom. I’ve mostly gone back to manually managing things, though. I also found some features in sonarr to be a bit obtuse. Since it’s renaming files, it has to keep the original file to seed the torrent. That’s completely understandable but I wish there was a way to have it wait until ratio/time limit before renaming. It would save hard drive space to allow that.
You can still enjoy sonarr. The databases it pulls info from are also part of the problem as I detailed in another response here. For me, it is not ideal.
I think you may be the one lacking intelligence here.
It’s always a possibility, but it is unlikely in this case. I’m fairly meticulous, though imperfect as anyone is
Radarr and boneherr
And libretorrent on android. Piracy always rules.
Ttorrent Wants in on the list of alternatives
Leech and seed.
Hijacking this comment cause more people REALLY need to know about Debrid services, such as Real-Debrid. It “caches” torrents, so anything you want can be downloaded instantly at your connection’s maximum bandwidth; no waiting for seeds. And since you’re not distributing anything, you don’t have to pay for a VPN, either.
EDIT: It’s kind of like a seed box, except it’s more of a collective seed box. So if at least one user added the torrent before, you can download it immediately.
I have a Gigabit connection and was able to download three different AAA titles, 50+ GB each, play all of them, then decide that I don’t like any of them, all within a couple of hours. It’s mind-blowing how much faster it is than using a torrent client.
Even better, you can integrate it with your favorite media center app like Plex or Kodi (personally I prefer Stremio for its Netflix-like interface). Now you have every show and film from every streaming platform – all in one place – streamed instantly to your TV. I’ll never use torrent clients ever again. They take too long.
EDIT: It bothers me that so many people are willing to dismiss Debrid services without even giving them a chance. Here’s proof that this is legit – /r/Piracy megathread on reddit | Video 1 | Video 2 (sorry for the shaky phone video. I just wanted to get this evidence out quickly before people move on to a different thread, and it’s kinda difficult to have a steady hand when you’re trying to film and click at the same time.)
The “too good to be true” sell and complete lack of detail / pricing on their website is sketchy imo. I’m immediately suspicious of any org that profits off of piracy in such an opaque way
Bro, you have no idea what you’re turning down. I get it; on the surface it does seem sus. I was suspicious too until I tried it. Debrid is an absolute game-changer. It’s kind of like a seed box, except it’s more like a collective seed box. So if at least one user added the torrent before, you can download it immediately.
I don’t know what you mean by “lack of detail / pricing” on their website. The pricing is laid out very clearly, and there’s not a lot of explanation cause it’s really that simple. (EDIT: Looks like you need to make a free account to see the pricing; I’ll admit that’s stupid). So here’s a screenshot:
https://i.imgur.com/5LQehRp.png
You don’t have to use Real-Debrid. I just mentioned them cause they’re the most popular. Google “Debrid services” for alternatives. There’s also a megathread on reddit.
I get the “never pay for piracy” argument, but with torrents you need a VPN to keep your ISP off your ass, so at the end of the day, you’re paying for piracy regardless. Debrid is cheaper than a VPN.
It bothers me so much that you’re not willing to give it a shot, that I made a video to show you how fast, easy, and convenient it is. And here’s another video of me streaming a movie almost instantly, in case you still think I’m full of shit. (Videos might still be processing when you see this, so try again later if the quality is too low for you to see what I’m doing.)
Idk, I’ve been using the free tier of torrents (except for a VPN, which I’d have anyway) and never not downloaded close to my full speed. Don’t really know how what you say beats that.
Also btw if you load sequentially and first and last pieces first you can start watching your downloaded files immediately with any normal torrent. DL speed just has to be faster than total playtime of what you’re watching.
Even if that were true, Debrid services are still faster. Torrents can take a minute or two even get started in torrent clients. Debrid is instant, even if the torrent doesn’t have a lot of seeds. Think of it like a shared seedbox, where anyone can add to/download from it. And like I said, it’s cheaper than a VPN.
But whatever, do what you want. If you don’t want to try it, that’s on you. I literally offered to pay for it, and you still won’t give it a shot it. I give up.
(Some people, man.)
As I said, since I have a VPN anyway, torrents are literally free for me. I believe you, I just don’t want to pay for another service.
Alright fine. I hope I managed to convince at least one other person, though…
Just wanted to chime in and say I was a skeptic till a few days ago. I tried the $4 30 day plan to see if it was for me, and wow, I’m amazed.
I did it for stremio as I don’t have the storage to keep up with local hosting and it’s simple for the non technical members of the house.
Blown away by how much faster it was to play a full 4k HDR stream with atmos. It was buffering like mad before. I’m a believer now.
Thank you. I was worried that I was shouting at brick walls for a moment.
I also use Stremio with Real-Debrid. The girlfriend knows nothing about piracy, but Stremio is so easy and convenient that my mother could use it. She uses it almost daily to watch anime that she can’t find on Crunchyroll.
People are suspicious cause it does sound too good to be true; I get it. Being able to stream any 4K HDR video you want without buffering seems unbelievable. It’s a little frustrating cause I always seem to get downvoted by a bunch of skeptics every time I bring up Debrid. Maybe cause I come on too hard and sound like an advertisement, but I can’t help but be fanatical about it. It’s just so much better than any other method for obtaining free content!
I think people are also reluctant to pay for piracy.
Absolutely understandable, this was my hold up for a long time. I believe it really depends on your setup, what I had before wasn’t working as well as I wanted to and this was my solution. Unfortunately, I don’t have the means for local storage, so this was the next best thing for me.
I’m just in the mindset of the fact that I went from $40 a month paying for my streaming services to $40 a year for this plus my VPN.
Buddy,
I saw your post by chance. I am an old sailor of the seven seas (15+ years) and torrent (with a seedbox) has been my favored ship for years. But I did à test with your solution: what a breeze it is (even for me who watch movies with french subtitles)
Thanks for putting that much energy in explaining and convincing that stremio + RD is a very convenient tool; it indeed is.
Use whatever works for you.
The *arr + torrent client setup just works so well, I can’t be bothered to change it. The *arr software automatically picks out good torrents that are the format you requested and that are seeded. I never really saw it not saturate my connection. For movies, I have to wait a few minutes (depending on file size and my own connection speed). For TV shows, new episodes are downloaded automatically as soon as they are released, so I just have to select the episode under “new episodes” in my media center app on whatever device I’m on.
Even if I were to use a debrid service, I’d probably still use a VPN for it because I wouldn’t want them to log my real IP.
If that works for you, that’s absolutely fine. No judgment. You do you.
All I want is for people to know that there’s another alternative to torrent clients and VPNs. That said, use what you’re comfortable with, but if I can convince even one person that there’s a better way, then my job here is done.
I have nothing to gain from my little crusade; I didn’t even post an affiliate link even though the option is there. Just trying to inform those who are interested. There’s no wrong way to sail the high seas, just faster routes to your destination. ;)
Edit: And BTW, your IP logging concerns were addressed in the reddit thread I linked to.
Can you point me to where my concerns are addressed? I read the following:
- You don’t need to worry about the following:
- IP address leaking
How does this address my concerns of the service itself logging my IP address though?
Logging IP addr and payment details unless they take monero.*
- You don’t need to worry about the following:
Can confirm, it’s pretty great. I use it with Syncler. It can be a pain to setup, but once it works, you’re golden.
Transmission has been my go-to for quite awhile
Sorry, this thread is full of fucking puns, and you didn’t make the obvious one.
Trans-missionary?
I’m struggling to thinking of what would be the obvious one?
Transmission into submission?
Transmission and emission?
Transmission + VPN in docker is the way to go.
Could you link me to a setup guide 👀
Sure thing:
https://github.com/haugene/docker-transmission-openvpn
What device are you running these on? NAS?
Not sure yet, just wanted a way to torrent ever since I moved to the US a few months ago
Nzbget gang here… for the gangbang?
Enshittification and masturbation.
I switched to Deluge from qBittorrent a while ago and I don’t even remember what it was that made me switch.
I did the opposite and also can’t remember why I did it.
Story of my life.
When I set up my newest media server I could not get the permissions to work on deluge with a mounted network drive for the life of me. Dumped a good 20 hours into it with minimal success.
qBittorrent worked out of the box.
What’s wrong with plain old Transmission?
Gonna be honest here i loved transmission until one day it just decided to stop working, no fixes would work, not even a full reinstall of it. Switched to qBit and it just worked so whatever
It it just me or does Deluge after a while use a lot of RAM? I keep using it, because I’m too lazy to look for an alternative. Maybe it’s just a memory leak in my linux distro’s version.
You know what’s hotter? Running an automated piracy server using Plex (Or Jellyfin i guess xoxo) and the -arr family of apps on a raspberry Pi so you can pretend you’ve got a cute little netflix system :^)
Sonarr+Radarr+qBittorrent+Jellyfin=I’M GETTING LAID
Or just use Stremio.
Requires slightly more hardware than a pi, but once you get to the double digit terabytes range of storage, you can honestly have a better plex/jellyfin library than Netflix in any one particular country (except maybe the US? I think US netflix has all the good shows and movies that we’re missing here in Europe).
Netflix might have more volume, but there’s a lot of low quality shit nobody wants to watch, whereas you can just throw literally every blockbuster ever made on just a couple of terabytes at lower quality levels.
I have an always-on vpn container and a transmission server container on my home server. Then I use transmission as a client on my laptop and I don’t need to continually connect and disconnect.
Any interest in a how-to guide? I won’t get to it for at least two weeks, mind.
Yes!!!
Implementation of VPN’d torrent client
This is how I torrent over Mullvad. I have no hesitation to recommend Mullvad - but I am not a crypto or security expert.
The main image fails closed - if the VPN goes down, transmission disconnects.
This setup also includes a SOCKS server that proxies your traffic over the same VPN. I use a separate browser (librewolf) and set the SOCKS proxy to :2020 including sending DNS over SOCKS. That’s because my country blocks piracy-related sites at the DNS level. If you don’t need this, you can delete the socks section of the docker-compose file.
On my ubuntu laptop, I install
transmission-remote-gtk
in order to click on a magnet link and have it added. Otherwise you have to browse to the container’s web interface, which gets tiresome.I have this installed as a systemd service so it runs on boot. I use the systemd state and credential features as a safeguard against my own mistakes with permissions, but my long-term goal is to encrypt these files on disk. Linux can be pwned - I have read that around 35% of botnet nodes are linux (although these are presumably mostly weak IoT devices). The secondary benefit of the
LoadCredential
/CREDENTIALS_DIRECTORY
mechanism is that it doesn’t expose secrets as environment variables.The p2p.service file needs to be in that path, but you can put the other files wherever you want.
Known issues / todo list
- The socks proxy sometimes falls over, I haven’t looked into why
- The downloaded files will be owned by root, since that’s what the container runs as
File contents
/root/.secrets/mullvad
:123456789 ""
For mullvad, there is no password, only an account number. I believe that the empty quotes are necessary. This file should be owned by root and chmod 600; containing dir should be 700. Replace the account number with your own account, obvs!
/etc/systemd/system/p2p.service
:[Unit] Description=p2p Requires=docker.service multi-user.target After=docker.service network-online.target dhcpd.service [Service] Restart=always RemainAfterExit=yes WorkingDirectory=/usr/local/bin/p2p ExecStart=docker compose up --remove-orphans ExecStop=docker compose down LoadCredential=mullvad:/root/.secrets/mullvad DynamicUser=yes SupplementaryGroups=docker StateDirectory=p2p StateDirectoryMode=700 [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target
/usr/local/bin/p2p/docker-compose.yml
:--- version: "3.7" services: p2p: restart: always container_name: p2p image: haugene/transmission-openvpn # see also: https://www.nickkjolsing.com/posts/dockermullvadvpn/ cap_add: - NET_ADMIN sysctls: - "net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=0" # ipv6 must be enabled for Mullvad to work volumes: - ${STATE_DIRECTORY:-./config/}:/config # dir managed by systemd - but defaults to ./config if running interactively - ${CREDENTIALS_DIRECTORY:-.}/mullvad:/config/openvpn-credentials.txt:ro # var populated by LoadCredential - but defaults to ./mullvad if running interactively - transmission:/data - transmission_incomplete:/data/incomplete - /my/directory/Downloads:/data/completed environment: - OPENVPN_PROVIDER=MULLVAD - OPENVPN_CONFIG=se_all # sweden - LOCAL_NETWORK=192.168.1.0/24 # put your own LAN network here - in most cases it should end in .0/24 - TRANSMISSION_WEB_UI=flood-for-transmission # optional ports: - 9091:9091 - 80:9091 - 2020:2020 socks: restart: always container_name: socks image: lthn/dante network_mode: "service:p2p" volumes: - ./sockd.conf:/etc/sockd.conf depends_on: - p2p volumes: transmission: external: false transmission_completed: external: false transmission_incomplete: external: false
/usr/local/bin/p2p/sockd.conf
:logoutput: stderr # debug: 2 internal: 0.0.0.0 port = 2020 external: tun0 external.rotation: route clientmethod: none socksmethod: username none user.privileged: root user.notprivileged: nobody user.unprivileged: sockd # Allow everyone to connect to this server. client pass { from: 0.0.0.0/0 to: 0.0.0.0/0 log: connect error # disconnect } # Allow all operations for connected clients on this server. socks pass { from: 0.0.0.0/0 to: 0.0.0.0/0 command: bind connect udpassociate log: error # connect disconnect iooperation #socksmethod: username } # Allow all inbound packets. socks pass { from: 0.0.0.0/0 to: 0.0.0.0/0 command: bindreply udpreply log: error # connect disconnect iooperation }
Steps
- Install docker and docker-compose, e.g. with
sudo apt-get install -y docker-ce docker-ce-cli containerd.io docker-buildx-plugin docker-compose-plugin
- Create the files with contents as above
sudo systemctl enable p2p
sudo systemctl start p2p
- Check what it’s doing:
systemctl status p2p
- On first start, it will take a few minutes to pull the images
- To debug interactively while also passing the creds, use
sudo systemd-run -P --wait -p LoadCredential=mullvad:/root/.secrets/mullvad docker compose up --remove-orphans
- Every so often, cd into
/usr/local/bin/p2p
and rundocker compose pull
to update the images.
Don’t need it personally, but someone else might, so definitely post it when you feel like doing some writing.
Yes!!!
Even without the volume you can have a “better” library, especially when platforms like Netflix sometimes cut out episodes or scenes from shows. Community, for example, is missing a bunch of scenes on Netflix that can mess up the story a bit.
That’s also true. But it’s the selection where you can really win with volume. Apple has great shows but there’s not a lot. Netflix has some good movies, but not too many. But you can have them all.
Friends that use my server call Plex <my first name>-Flix.
Mine is shamelessly named after me too lmao
Deluge and sploosh