I’m not trying to convince anyone to go back i promise, quite the contrary actually cause I think spez plans to just decrease the cost of the API and act like it was a bargain deal sacrifice while not solving any of the issues at all

But, when I think about it even if spez did actually listen and reverse all changes I don’t think i want to go back to Reddit cause from what Ive seen Lemmy is just friendlier and less :Be Corporate Friendly: I would honestly love it if Lemmy did a project like r/place one of these days so we could see what the internet is actually like instead of what happened in 2022 (I really did enjoy what a bunch of communities did but when the mods started abusing their powers to make it corporate r/place lost so much meaning) but i am curious since i’m not going back is there anything Reddit can do to make you go back to Reddit?

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    I’m done.

    The subs I moderated have either gone dark, or are going dark in the next ciuple days.

    And with that I let the mod teams I was a part of know that I am moving on. I hate what reddit did to the community, and my time feels better spent where it will be appreciated.

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    I think many people were looking for a reason to leave but kind of felt stuck seeing all the alternatives being either dead or abrasive.

    Lemmy seems to have captured the soul of what a significant portion of people have already been looking for.

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      I have to agree with you on that I saw a comment earlier about the people who left Reddit being a loud minority but something feels off about that

      Lemmy’s community feels so familiar I sadly just can’t find the right words to describe it though

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      This describes me perfectly. Most of the alternatives I saw previously just ended up being coopted by the alt-right crowd who got chased off of Reddit. Lemmy (so far) represents what I want from an online community.

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        Its so weird that the alt right hasn’t tried to seize Lemmy yet from my experience it was always the immediate fate of Reddit alts in curious if the alt right is too busy over at truth social (or rumble) oh could we please get a youtube alt next that would be so great

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          Peertube is a good federated alternative to Youtube, it also connects to the Fediverse and there is a central search engine called Sepia Search, which makes it easier to find content on the different instances.

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      Lemmy in it’s current state feels very similar to reddit did ~14 years ago.

      I am just smitten. I’ll never go back.

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        Exactly. Lemmy is great, and is essentially all I wanted from Reddit without the Reddit

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    i kind of want reddit to die now. people talking to one another shouldn’t be monetized or debased through some spyware algorithm run by antisocial dickheads.

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    I’ll be real: I don’t want to go back. I want a return to actual communities and comradery, and an exodus from “social” influencers, on ad-riddled and bloated soap boxes.

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      Bingo. That’s me too.

      I never realized just how tired I was of social media until Reddit blew themselves up. I had already quit Zucc’s armoury of social media tools a few years ago. I’ll be glad if I don’t ever have to go back.

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    As someone who really only went on Reddit for memes and techie discussions, I think I can say this: for my use-case, there was nothing special about Reddit itself. In fact, one thing I have realized is just how little the nature of the host matters beyond ease of use. Sure, certain formats lend themselves better to certain use-cases, but ultimately humans are social creatures, and even in the most inconvenient of circumstances, we find a way to make it work.

    And once you realize that, it becomes less about the medium, and more about the people who lead the discourse. From what I can gather, Reddit lost that discourse a long time ago. And as such, their downfall was only a matter of time.

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      Funny, I was just having that discussion with someone.

      I think the problem is all these platforms think the platform is the value and not the content made by the users.

      And of course, since they have the best platform, it’d be inconceivable that anyone would ever leave because they’re the best.

      Twitter, Reddit, Youtube, and Twitch are all doing exactly the ‘value is the platform’ while taking a massive shit on the creators and users that made the platform have any value in the first place, then acting confused why people are angry about how they’re behaving.

      No actual human gives a crap about the platform: nobody goes to these sites to go to the site, they go there for the content from someone they like.

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    Nothing.

    Reddit and u/spez haven’t even offered an apology and/or reversed their position. But let’s be real, here - apologies don’t necessarily make things right, and they don’t necessarily erase what’s been done. At best, we can forgive. But people don’t forget. Whatever trust there may have been, it’s gone now. I’ve grown tired of the half-assed apologies made by organizations and famous individuals that are supposed to make everything ok and compel us to forget what was done. I don’t think I’d care if Reddit and/or u/spec tried to make amends. They would not be genuine - your true colors are visible for all to see. Welcome to the real world where hollow apologetic half-measures don’t fool anyone.

    If I spat on your lunch because I was having a bad day, I don’t think there would be much I could say to defend my actions. Actions speak louder than words, and sometimes when you screw up there’s no going back. You’re just done.

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    • 100% backpedal on all controversial changes announced within the previous 6 months; including any changes announced at the same time as said controversial changes.
    • Form a task force of admins and developers to backport all; critical moderation tools and changes introduced since the new.reddit launch; to old.reddit. (Complete this task within 1-2 years.)
    • Irrevocably Hard remove with no severance /u/spez from his CEO position and any position of power at reddit.
    • Hire a new CEO from the pool of the community team(s).
    • Cease all Dickery at once
    • CANCEL THE IPO!!! This shit needs to wait until reddit gets it’s act together.
    • Prioritize hiring humans to run reddit AEO; choose them from your MASSIVE FUCKING POOL OF SUBREDDIT MODERATORS! DO NOT USE AI OR HIRE ANYONE WHO HASN’T MANAGED AT LEAST 25K USER SUBS
    • Ban all forms of facism; this is including forms of EXTREME viewpoints that grossly exceed reasonable discourse, peaceful free speech, advocate for extremist governmental regulation, violence or oppression of any kind against any group or subset of people.
    • fuck /u/spez - Just make sure he never gets a C-Level job again please.
    • continue to build reddit out in a way that allows for fair and ethically priced services from reddit (Ads, unlimited API access, rev sharing, premium features that are cosmetic items only, etc)
    • Pick up the same “Do No Evil” ethos that Google abandoned; prioritize your users and revenue equally and balance the obligations better.
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    I never considered going back. Lemmy is forward. More power to the users and the community and less from greedy shareholders. This is the way.

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    At this point, it’s only going to get worse. It’s a very large Venture Capital backed company, on track to IPO.

    Large VC/public companies goals will follow more of what we see with “mainstream” sites and social media. It’d be against their goals and their business to have less ads, less agorithms showing what their partners want to see and not what the user wants to see, less bloat on their front end. Even if the CEO wanted to go that way, he’d quickly be replaced.

    It’s a self sustaining movement of capital now and users are annoyances that they have to deal to achieve their goals.

    I’ll be honest, I started using redding decade ago because most forums were very niche, specific, with weird to follow rules, very low on users, and reddit seemed to always have a community for each topic I had an interest on. It still does, but the end is approaching fast, and I don’t want to search Discord servers, social media videos, or even ancient methods that are alternatives like IRC servers, mailing lists ; search results are useless in Google due to SEO and already affect other search engines

    It all comes up to finding one or more sites that don’t look ancient or too mobile focused, and if enough people are going to use it and stick to it. Otherwise it’ll just be another corner of the web filled with a few crazy users

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    Literally wouldn’t go anywhere if the app I like wasn’t having to shut down.

    Their official app is horrible to use in comparison. Just joined up here and installed Jerboa and it’s like using the app I’m losing there.

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      Ill miss RIF, im curious if RIF had a different algorithm or something cause from what im reading there was a lot of awful going on with reddit and I saw nearly none of it.

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        I mean, I didn’t see as much of the bad “Reddit” culture that people talk about either. But I had curated my feed to the point that I had little default subs left so perhaps I was “avoiding the crowds”, so to speak.

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    I’ve only been here for a day, but the lack of homophobia and transphobia here compared to Reddit has been a breath of fresh air. I’m not afraid of posting here like I was on Reddit, where I’d actually have to debate with myself for a minute or two before posting. It’s like finally leaving a bad relationship; now I’m starting to see how bad that all was for my mental health.

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      Use the report button if you see any of that too, we will not tolerate it here.

      Reddit thrives off of letting homophobes and transpbobes ruin everyone’s day, because it drives up their engagement numbers. We aren’t going to allow that here.