• Striker@lemmy.worldOP
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      11 months ago

      I don’t that’s what he meant. He meant that many Russian soldiers are brainwashed by propaganda as well.

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      Back when iraq was invaded, Saddam was the aggressor who bad WMD, it all turned out to be a lie.

      How do you know that American government is telling it’s citizens complete facts about Ukraine war?

      Yes I know Russia is the aggressor here and I am completely against the invasion. However, everyone knew that NATO expansion will trigger a war and US actively pushed for it. American governments hands are not clean when it comes to Ukraine war and American citizens don’t question it at all.

      Which brings me to the cartoon here where if you say the above mentioned statements you will be called a tankie, Putin bootlicker etc.

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      With all due respect, you’re literally replying to a post saying that it’ll always be “This war is different, this war is justified” by emphasising how this war is different and this war is justified.

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        But that’s not what is happening.

        What is happening is directly pointing out that this was is NOT different. That this war is ALSO unjustified.

        In war, the aggressors are the problem. Period. And lending support to the aggressed is not the same as supporting war.

        It would work, simply letting Russia finish a genocide against Ukraine or Israel finish a genocide against Palestine. The conflict would certainly be resolved that way. But if you think it is an acceptable outcome, you value peace too highly.

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          Oh, I agree. Personally I think the world has a duty to stop any country attempting to annex parts of any other country.

          I was just tickled by that exchange.

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              Ah, ok, I see what’s happened.

              Ok, misunderstanding. I’m not American - I didn’t see the connection with the US being the aggressor in the examples in the comic. I was just interpreting it as ‘Anti-War’.

              The rest of the exchange makes more sense now!

              I was honestly baffled, it felt like I was having a different conversation than everyone else.

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        The war in Ukraine is not justified. Supporting Ukraine’s defense is.

        Don’t make the mistake of thinking the opponents of any particular military action are pacifists.

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              Hanlon’s Razor, my dude.

              Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity

              I realised that I’m in the bad here - I missed the connection between the specific wars in the cartoon (i.e. that the US was/supports the aggressor). I thought it was just anti-war in general.

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        That war can end when Russia stops invading another country. Ukraine defending its citizens and territory is right and proper.

        Where are you from?

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          I should say what to Russia? I don’t understand.

          I agree that the world has a duty to stop any attempts a country might make to annex another country’s territory.