Calls are growing for the UN Security Council to be reformed after the US became the only member to use its veto power to block a Gaza ceasefire resolution, a move welcomed by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. The UN chief says he will keep pushing for peace.
Fucking liar.
https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/documents/atrocity-crimes/Doc.1_Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide.pdf
Article two. Read it, and go silent until you grow a brain, a conscience, or both.
Russia explicitly, openly, and repeatedly states that they desire elimination of Ukrainian nation. Their official stance, repeated by their president and all the state media is that Ukraine and Ukrainians either don’t exist or are a “historical mistake”. Whether they target the entire nation or just the parts they can reach is of no import for the definition of genocide.
In fact, Russia ticks off all five definitions in article two and least points a), c), and d) of article three in Ukraine alone.
I think it’s a valid point that Russia’s actions aren’t driven by racism anywhere as much as Israel’s actions, which in turns gets reflected in the proportion of the civilian population killed by both: Israel already killed way more Palestinian civilians in 2 months as a proportion of the 5 million population, than Russia killed Ukranians civilians in 2 years as a proportion of a population of 40 million.
This doesn’t excuse Russian actions or make them any less evil, it just shows how Israel is managing to act significantly more evil even than even the people who perpetrated the Bucha and Mariupoli massacres.
Fascists when they have the freedom to do what they want are always evil and it shouldn’t be that contentious that the more racist they are, the more evil they act.
It’s weird that some here insist on taking the point being made as being “Russia is not evil” rather than being that “Israel manages to be even more evil than Russia”.
Racism has nothing to do with casualty numbers discrepancy. Gaza Strip is a densely populated area.
Genocide is not a competition, it’s a crime against humanity. I don’t care whether Israel or Russia does it better, I care that both state actors are reveling in it.
They are knowingly chosing to do a blockade of Food, Water and Medicine which they know has little effect on Hamas (who have stores of those things) and massive effect on civilians.
Also it has been leaked that now, when their casualty estimation systems give a high probability that 5 or more innocent victims will be killed as collateral when attacking a target, they go ahead and attack it anyway, when before they didn’t.
They are choosing to kill Palestinian civilians, the very people who members of the Israeli Cabinet describe as “human animals”.
Would you have said “Genocide is not a competition” to dismiss the similar hate-driven indiscriminate killing of civilians because of the etnic group they came from practiced by the early Nazi Germany, or would you recognize that is the type mindless hate is what ends up with things like the Holocaust and that such race-Fascism is an altogether separate category from the opportunistic kind of Fascism practiced in places like Spain and Italy?
They do tick off the fifth box of kidnapping children, but the rest not at all.
Elimination of a nation does not mean the elimination of its inhabitants.
You had two options: read one damn sentence or insist on being a tool.
Of course you chose the latter.
Please do quote that sentence you’re talking about since you are so much more gifted in the ways of literacy than me
The first bloody page. The article you were asked to read.
But what could I expect from someone who thinks genocide is a competition that one could lose if someone else did it better…
There are multiple definitions of what constitutes as genocide if you read the article, not just attempting to kill 100% of the population. Trying to eradicate the norm and way of life by a group of people and forcing them to adopt a different culture is cultural genocide. Which is what Russia is doing by Russifying Ukraine. And what do they think they’re doing by kidnapping Ukrainian children? Not Russifying them?
It is cultural genocide. And kidnapping the children is indeed real genocide.
But Russia’s goal is clearly not the total elimination of the people of Ukraine.
Israel wants to literally kill all Palestinians and replace them with israelis. Do you disagree with that?
Russia’s goal is absolutely the total elimination of all Ukrainians – they want Ukraine to cease to exist, consumed by them. They thus eliminate all Ukrainians by instead forcing them to be Russian citizens.
And honestly? I don’t think that’s Israel’s goal, because they don’t seem to have a goal. It’s just senseless and directionless violence and. To me it looks more like them lashing out because they can. Just like Russia with Ukraine, they want Palestine to cease to exist and all Palestinians to either become Israeli or be exiled. The settler program makes that much obvious.
It’s not a super big distinction though, frankly. Sure Israel isn’t methodically killing every Palestinian, but they sure as hell don’t care about how many Palestinians die. Again, just like Russia with Ukrainians. The goal isn’t an organized campaign of ethnic cleansing, but more the total consumption of the land, no matter how many Palestinians or Ukrainians die.
Israel’s goal is to end Hamas as a concept, and destroy their infrastructure and resources so they do not have a viable successor
They aren’t doing a great job of it. The wanton killing is just making things worse. To truly defeat terrorism they need to invest in the civil government of Gaza and build it up. Otherwise there’s always going to be someone to replace Hamas, unfortunately.
I would definitely have prosecuted this war differently, yes.
Elimination of a passport does not mean unaliving someone.
Correct, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t genocidal. The US didn’t stop being genocidal to Native Americans when they stopped killing them.
When would you say that the genocide of the Native Americans stopped then?
IMO not trying to wipe out their race was a great starting point.
Hmmm. Good question actually. I don’t know.
No it did not stop then. Not at all.