Sorry to be a contrarian, but sometimes a change in title is a reward in itself, especially if it does not involve a change in job responsibility. In some large corporations, there are pay ranges that are determined by your title. It could be that you are on the higher end of the pay range for your existing role, so it is hard for your supervisor to justify why you should be getting more money. By giving you a dry promotion, it becomes easier to give you a fat raise during the compensation review season. At many companies, there is a certain time of the year to give people promotions and then later on in the year to give raises.
By giving you a dry promotion, it becomes easier to give you a fat raise during the compensation review season.
Easier for who? And how exactly? The idea that some schedule is stopping corporate from giving the lowly worker a raise becomes completely laughable when you see how they treat their top management, and has no validity either way - they make the rules, their hands are never tied by this kind of bullshit.
You’re not being “contrarian”, you’re just regurgitating corporate propaganda, actively acting against your own interests by swallowing any of it, and serving them by repeating it to us as if it has any legitimacy.
But at the end of the day, this is how it is. What are you going to do, quit? The only thing to do is to accept the “dry promotion” and begin searching for a new job if you don’t like it. Anything else is just complaining because no one person can fix it.
We can continue to call it out for the bullshit it is. Name and shame (after you’ve secured a new position for yourself), educate others not to fall for this without getting every single thing in writing. Help with resumes, stick up for your coworkers and help them recognize their worth. This system works because it relies on people keeping quiet and constantly competing with their peers. By all means, put your mask on before assisting others, but we don’t have to take this alone or laying down.
It might be hard for the supervisor, but only because they are also part of an exploitative system not compensating labor fairly.
Pay ranges determined by title isn’t fact, it’s decided by the company. Having promotions given once per year as well, as is the decision to raise salaries at a different time.
Just as they can make sure to pay their bills on time every month, they can make sure to promote and pay their workers on time every time.
Yes, the supervisor is working from inside the system, but that means you’re in this together and should rise together against the system. You both need to join a union.
At any company worth its salt, a promotion laterally to a new role could at least come with a nominal adjustment. 0% is absurd, but something nominal like 2% as a “performance incentive” towards new responsibilities would be reasonable.
Oh absolutely. Still, I was saying assuming they are up for a proper raise within that same 12 month period… That is at least a begrudging conversation. Not the 0% and no scheduled increase described.
Sorry to be a contrarian, but sometimes a change in title is a reward in itself, especially if it does not involve a change in job responsibility. In some large corporations, there are pay ranges that are determined by your title. It could be that you are on the higher end of the pay range for your existing role, so it is hard for your supervisor to justify why you should be getting more money. By giving you a dry promotion, it becomes easier to give you a fat raise during the compensation review season. At many companies, there is a certain time of the year to give people promotions and then later on in the year to give raises.
Easier for who? And how exactly? The idea that some schedule is stopping corporate from giving the lowly worker a raise becomes completely laughable when you see how they treat their top management, and has no validity either way - they make the rules, their hands are never tied by this kind of bullshit.
You’re not being “contrarian”, you’re just regurgitating corporate propaganda, actively acting against your own interests by swallowing any of it, and serving them by repeating it to us as if it has any legitimacy.
But at the end of the day, this is how it is. What are you going to do, quit? The only thing to do is to accept the “dry promotion” and begin searching for a new job if you don’t like it. Anything else is just complaining because no one person can fix it.
If they need the work done they should pay for it to be done.
We can continue to call it out for the bullshit it is. Name and shame (after you’ve secured a new position for yourself), educate others not to fall for this without getting every single thing in writing. Help with resumes, stick up for your coworkers and help them recognize their worth. This system works because it relies on people keeping quiet and constantly competing with their peers. By all means, put your mask on before assisting others, but we don’t have to take this alone or laying down.
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Key point. That would be worth considering.
It might be hard for the supervisor, but only because they are also part of an exploitative system not compensating labor fairly.
Pay ranges determined by title isn’t fact, it’s decided by the company. Having promotions given once per year as well, as is the decision to raise salaries at a different time.
Just as they can make sure to pay their bills on time every month, they can make sure to promote and pay their workers on time every time.
Yes, the supervisor is working from inside the system, but that means you’re in this together and should rise together against the system. You both need to join a union.
Have you ever actually been part of a union, personally?
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At any company worth its salt, a promotion laterally to a new role could at least come with a nominal adjustment. 0% is absurd, but something nominal like 2% as a “performance incentive” towards new responsibilities would be reasonable.
2% is still laughable. They would easily be paying the external candidate > 10% more almost always.
Oh absolutely. Still, I was saying assuming they are up for a proper raise within that same 12 month period… That is at least a begrudging conversation. Not the 0% and no scheduled increase described.