Look at this verification
Every night it even makes me legitimize
Is that Chad Kroger from Nickelback?
Is that Joey with something on his head?
How did his eyes get so red?
I never understood how they were useful in the first place. But that’s kind of beside the point. I assume this is referencing AI, but due to the fact that you’ve only posted one photo out of apparently four, I don’t really have any idea what you’re posting about.
The point of verification photos is to ensure that nsfw subreddits are only posting with consent. Many posts were just random nudes someone found, in which the subject was not ok with having them posted.
The verification photos show an intention to upload to the sub. A former partner wanting to upload revenge porn would not have access to a verification photo. They often require the paper be crumpled to make it infeasible to photoshop.
If an AI can generate a photorealistic verification picture, it cannot be used to verify anything.
I didn’t realize they originated with verifying nsfw content. I’d only ever seen them in otherwise text-based contexts. It seemed to me the person in the photo didn’t necessarily represent the account owner just because they were holding up a piece of paper showing the username. But if you’re matching the verification against other photos, that makes more sense.
It’s been used way before the nsfw stuff and the advent of AI.
Back in the days if you were doing an AMA with a celeb, the picture proof is the celeb telling us this is the account they are using. Doesn’t need to be their account and was only useful for people with an identifiable face. If you were doing an AMA because you were some specialist or professional, giving your face and username doesn’t do anything, you need to provide paperwork to the mods.
This is a poor way to police fake nudes though, I wouldn’t have trusted it even before AI.
Was it really that hard to Photoshop enough to bypass mods that are not experts at photo forensic?
Probably not, but it would still reduce the amount considerably.
I think it takes a considerable amount of work to photoshop something written on a sheet of paper that has been crumpled up and flattened back out.
If you have experience with the program it’s piss easy
However most people do not have experience.
My discord friends had some easy ways to defeat this.
You could require multiple photos; it’s pretty hard to get AI to consistently generate photos that are 100% perfect. There would bound to be things wrong with trying to get AI to generate multiple photos of the same (non-celeb) person that would make it obvious it’s fake.
Another idea was to make it a short video instead of a still photo. For now, at least, AI absolutely sucks balls at making video.
Just wait a few months for video, about consistency in photos, just use loras and seeds.
I can finally realise my dream of commenting on r/blackpeopletwitter
They were always useless
At some point the only way to verify someone will be to do what the Klingons did to rule out changelings: Cut them and see if they bleed.
I’m pretty sure we can just switch to a verification video chat which will buy us a year.
Op, link please. I only found this:
Thank goodness we can now use AI to do something that could already easily be done by taking a picture off someones social media.
I don’t know if I just have really good eyes for a 38 year old, but I can tell at first glance, within seconds, that this photo is AI generated. It’s all about the lack of humanity in the subject’s eyes
Or, and this is just a long shot, maybe you viewed the photo knowing it was AI generated and then worked backwards to create your own internal justification as to why you’re uniquely gifted as detecting “humanity” in the eyes on webcam selfie photos.
If by luck of humanity you mean a single light source reflected in her left eye, and double source in her right, I agree.
It’s far more than her eyes, she is bilaterally asymmetrical. With real people you can generally take a reflection of one side and it will look fairly close to the other. This woman has so much asymmetry it is off-putting. Her eyes are different heights and shapes, her cheek bones are different, the outer part of her nostrils are at different heights, her lip sides are shaped differently, her jawlines are different, her suprasternal notch(the divot at the base of the neck) is WILDLY different. The easiest thing to spot is her different skin tones. At first, you’ll want to chalk it up to shading, but the light source isn’t to her side but in front and to the upper right, that does not allow for such a radical change if you look at her forehead.
AI notes: make face and body images more symmetrical, but not 100%. Got it.
The only reason it hasn’t done that yet is because it’s not really AI, but large model probability with training feedback, and so far the feedback has enforced the “close enough” aspect. The next versions will cross the lines that still let us sense something isn’t quite right.
Can confirm, I made some random korean dude on dall-e to send to Instagram after it threatened to close my fake account, and it passed.
Why would they require a photo? What the heck?
Once again everyone on the internet is a cute girl if they want to be.
Or a cute cat.
Or Elvis.
It’s the return of 16/f/cali
Due to having so many people trying to impersonate me on the internet, I’ve become somewhat of a expert on verification pictures.
You can still easily tell that this is fake because if you look closely, the details, especially the background clutter, is utterly nonsensical.
- The object over her right shoulder (your left), for example, looks like if someone blended a webcam with a TV with a nightstand.
- Over her left shoulder (your right), her chair is only on that one side and it blends into the counter in the background.
- Is it a table lamp or a wall mounted light?
- The doorframe in background behind her head is not even aligned.
- Her clavicles are asymmetrical, never seen that on a real person.
- Her wispy hairstrands. Real hair don’t appear out of thin air in loops.
The point isn’t that you can spot it.
The point is that the automated system can’t spot it.
Or are you telling me there is a person looking at every verification photo, and if they did they would thoroughly scan the photo for imperfections?
The idea of using a picture upload for automated verification is completely unviable. A much more commonly used system would be something like telling you to perform a random gesture on camera on the spot, like “turn your head slowly” or “open your mouth slowly” which would be trivial for a human to perform but near impossible for AI generators.
but near impossible for AI generators.
…I feel like this isn’t the first time I heard that statement before.
Due to so many people trying to impersonate me on the Internet
Yeah see, now I am not really sure if you’re the real Margot Robbie.
Could you send me a verification picture?
But then how will I astroturf (I mean, organically market) my current and future movies, like Golden Globe winning summer blockbuster, Barbie, now available on Blu-Ray and select streaming services, here if I get verified?
What am I looking at here?
GenAI made image of a verification post. The point i guess is that with genAI photos, anyone can easily make a fake verification post, making them less useful as a means to verify identity.
The post originally is from reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/s/fEle6uaiR7)
Very rapidly the basis of truth in any discussion is going to get eroded.
Micro communities based on pre (post-truth) connections. Only allowing people into the community that can be confirmed be others?
I’ve been thinking of starting a matrix community to get away from discord and it’s inevitable Botting.
