Two explosions at Kerman ceremony marking anniversary of killing of Qassem Suleimani raise Middle East tensions further
More than 95 Iranians were killed and scores more injured in a terrorist attack at a ceremony in Iran to commemorate the assassination of a top general, further heightening tensions in the increasingly volatile Middle East.
The explosions came at a memorial ceremony in Iran marking the fourth anniversary of the killing of Qassem Suleimani, the head of Iran’s al-Quds force, and it was not clear whether either of Suleimani’s principal regional adversaries – Israel or Islamic State – were responsible for the carnage.
Iran’s new minister of interior, the hardliner Ahmad Vahidi, did not immediately attribute blame for the attack and no side claimed responsibility for the deadliest single terrorist incident since the Iranian Revolution in 1979. The US state department said it had no reason to believe Israel was involved.
An early death toll of 103 was revised down, but Iran’s health minister, Bahram Einollahi, said many of the wounded were in critical condition and the toll could rise.
It’s fucked up the most likely reason is Israel is trying to draw other countries into their war so they have an excuse to call in their allies…
This shit might really start WW3, and it’s all going to be because the western world supported a far right ethnostate regardless of the evil they commit.
Give someone like that a blank check on rationalizing and literal billions in aid a year and this has always been inevitable.
Especially since the next president is Biden or trump. Neither one will even try to reign in Netanyahu
There’s no evidence this was Israel. Iran has plenty of enemies in the Middle East.
Correct, there’s no evidence. However it’s not like anyone would be surprised to find out the Israelis were responsible, they’ve committed similar acts previously.
That’s not a similar act at all. Assassinating one of the leaders of Iran’s nuclear weapons program isn’t like blowing up a bunch of random people at a march.
Well they’re both acts of war committed on Iranian soil.
One is an act of terrorism, one is a strike on a military target. That’s like comparing apples and war crimes.
They did it in Bangkok too.
Do you have a link? I guess I missed this.
I got it the wrong way round: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-17026007
You really can’t tell the difference?
I’d like to point out that ISIL took responsibility.
Could be every secret agency on the world. Could be local resistance. Could be a lone wolf.
Why are you all so confident it was Israel?
Antisemitism anyone? On lemmy? No way!
I’m going to go a step further and say that the vast majority of Israelis would not agree to attacking civilians in general, and certainly not like this. This is a pretty clear attempt to “poke the bear” which is never a good idea. Even the most hawkish Israelis wouldn’t want to preemptively open another front in an already complex war.
Lol if that were the case, Netanyahu would have been gone a decade ago.
The vast majority of Israelis support the expansion of Israel which kills civiliansalso the vast majority of Israel doesn’t run Israel so it doesn’t matter.
Attackng civilians is the entire reason israel exists
Iran is also a far-right ethnostate.
A far-right ethnostate that murder, rapes, and terrorises women, children, and men for “morality”.
A far-right ethnostate that tried to draw Yemen and Lebanon into the war by launching proxy attacks.
For those who actually oppose far-right ethnostate, let’s make sure we oppose all of them.
Iran is a multi-ethnic society. What ethnicity is the ethno-state you imagine centered on? Persians? You know that General Soleimani wasn’t a Persian? Or that Iran’s supreme leader is an Azeri Turk? Or that the merchant class of Iran is not centered on Persians? How is this an ethno-state? Zionists sure like projection it seems…
He clearly just meant “theocracy” which it is and makes no apologies about.
Iran is an illiberal hellhole
A Theocracy and an Ethnostate are two different things. If he meant theocracy he would have used the word theocracy, but he didn’t. He used the word ethnostate
I agree. I’m big on specificity of language.
An ethnostate how? There are plenty of Kurds, Afghans, Azeris and others.
Between Biden and Netanyahu isn’t all that rosy: https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/12/politics/biden-israel-losing-support-netanyahu/index.html
And it didn’t start just after the terrorist attack, and it isn’t just Biden, remember that Bibi went all in for trump.
Between Biden and Netanyahu isn’t all that rosy
It is.
You’re taking that comment to mean Biden thinks they’ve gone to far with the genocide.
“We’ll continue to provide military assistance to Israel until they get rid of Hamas, but we have to be careful – they have to be careful,” Biden said. “The whole world’s public opinion can shift overnight, we can’t let that happen.”
Biden means the same thing he’s literally been saying for 50 years.
That hell support Israel no matter what, but Israel not paying attention to optics means that governments may face pressure from voters to stop supporting them.
Biden doesn’t think current events cross that line, but he’s worried they’re not doing enough propaganda.
The only criticism he’s made of Israel in 50 years of supporting them, is that they need to worry about public perception.
Well, Israel is going to get American support regardless who the president is. Trump is just as likely, without any qualms on rhetoric, to send US weapons and money and maybe even troops to the mid east, but first he’ll send them to the American south west to create his own ‘Gaza’ in southern California. So, it looks like America is in for another war in the middle east. Which is another big win for Russia, keeping us tied up there.
Lots of big claims but no evidence. It’s almost as if you’re intentionally inviting a certain narrative…
I’m sorry what? This is fault of the west? Really?
Russia invades a country, middle east goes on terrorist rampage and its the west that’s starting shit? Fuck off lol
The west is certainly at fault for the Israel situation
Yes the west created the zionist movement and Islamic martyrdom /s
Maybe it’s time for the middle east to take responsibility for their disgusting religion wars.
Yes the west created the zionist movement
Literally yes.
Continuing to provide support in the form of weapons and other military equipment is the bigger issue though. This stops being the West’s fault when we stop helping Israel with their genocide
I’m sorry but did you miss Oct 7-9th? That’s the reason Israel gets weapons because the idiots next door are fine with dying as long as they can kill someone else.
Literally there isn’t any other religion or culture that does this. Isn’t that just mind blowing? No one else does this.
So what led up to oct 7th and how did all the dead Palestinian children help them?
Insane cult ideology led to 7th not the west lol
Delulu af
You seem to have cause and effect backwards
The terrorists are the victims for sure! /s
Maybe it’s time we stopped arming everyone in the middle east
You know most of the weapons are Russian right?
We shipped them Soviet weapons back when Kissinger was still in charge, so that doesn’t surprise me.
You’re right, the best time to do it was back when it started, the second best time is right now
Who do you think created Israel?
The cult that ihabits it?
Nope, it was “given” to them by the allies after WW2, despite none of them living there or caring what happened to the people living there
Pretty sure it was created by the UN with explicit support from the Soviet Union.
Please go and at least read a Wiki of the creation of Israel.
Everything is the fault of the US (or “west” if we’re playing that game today) from the beginning to the end of time. When they’ve already decided what the answer is, all that’s left is to force the facts to fit the narrative.
When the entire global historical narrative is framed exclusively through the lens of the “west is bad” then you remove all agency from every other country. It’s a very dangerous and disingenuous tactic of rewriting history.
The brain wash is amazing. The terrorists straight up torture and murder people and people have the balls to justify it - “they were forced to do it”. That’s some next level delusion.
Israel tortures and murders far more than Hamas ever has. It’s not even remotely close.
Nah. You’re bringing out a math book or something? I’m an utilitarian and I agree Israel is piece of shit that should have never been brought into existence but Hamas and the whole martyrdom ideology is far FAAAR worse.
It’s one of the worst things on the planet. Objectively. No other culture is ok with dying to hurt random CIVILIANS. No other.
Just this fact alone should be enough to extinguish Hamas from the existence. Imagine what will happen when we are powerful society to the point where a few individuals can inflict massive damage (AI). Do we still allow religious martyrdom? How long do you think our society will last?
People are so fucking lost in this thread.
Just to get it out of the way fuck Hamas.
If no one else it’s OK with it, where did all of the dead children in Gaza come from?
If we were anywhere near as bad as they pretend, they’d be exporting radioactive glass instead of bullshit and finger-pointing.
How about we just stop flooding the Middle East with weapons?
Only if Russia and Iran agree and do it simultaneously.
Iran is part of the Middle East
You know they’re buying them willingly for their martyrdom wars right? It’s the same disgusting propaganda argument that says we shouldn’t arm Ukraine.
It isn’t Isreal. There isn’t a Hamas leader standing there. They killed him yesterday.
I’m not saying it’s Mossad, but it’s probably Mossad. There are much easier targets than the memorial for Qassem Suleimani: this is sending a message to Iran.
While it’s likely, it could also very well be something purely local.
Are we doing that thing for the first day or so when we argue if it is intelligence, false flag, religious, ethnic supremacists, or mental illness and everyone picks the one they like the best?
My theory is that the cars just did that.
When people tell you they ‘could just explode’, listen to them
The amount of groups who have the reasons and means to pull this off is long. I agree that Mossad is high on the list, but Iraq is not far away from the top place, either. Then there are groups who did not like the generals clan, protesters against Iran in general, etc, etc.
The whole region is a shit show waiting for the ventilator to fly through.
Why would you write nonsense like this when you obviously know nothing at all about Iran or regional dynamics? Iraq is a close ally of Iran, so no, they’re not “not far away from the top” of Iran’s regional opponents. Also, those who don’t like the general’s ‘clan’? WTF are you babbling about? Iran is not a clan-based society the way you seem to believe it is. I’m Iranian and the ‘clan’ of Soleimani is not a subject I’ve heard discussed ever. You seem to think the garbage spread by the Bushie’s in the 2000’s about the region is how things actually work. It’s a pathetically uninformed attempt at sounding smart. Read a book maybe?
There are three candidates for these attacks. Odds all clearly point towards the Israelis as the top suspects. However, it could also have been carried out by the MEK, or the Islamic State Khorasan. But even if it did, the likelihood is high that Mossad played a coordinating role in the operation. There’s zero chance Soleimani’s ‘clan’, whatever the fuck that refers to, was a factor in this terrorist attack.
What’s the view your side on what the US and Israel are doing?
It seems to me that the US keeps trying to link absolutely anything done by Qassam brigades and Hezbollah and others to Iran. They’re constantly mentioning Iran. And they’re trying to make sure people think of Hamas as the same as Isis, when they’re totally different ideologically.
I feel like the reason that the US is delaying any de-escalation by Israel is that the US is hoping that Israel attacks Iran and Lebanon and that those countries respond. And by doing so it gives the US an excuse to attack and take control of those countries under the guise of helping an ally.
There was a really intersting opinion piece that made a lot of sense to me, I’ll try to link it.
The US is overestimating Iran’s influence on those groups to create consent for a war with Iran (and gullible people eat that up like it’s mom’s spaghetti)
Exactly. It like watching the US back in the 2000’s constantly talk about WMDs as a pretext to attack and destabilise the middle east once again.
It seems to me that the US keeps trying to link absolutely anything done by Qassam brigades and Hezbollah and others to Iran.
This is because Iran funds them.
https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sm761
Iran explicitly wants the destruction of Israel and Israel is a US ally, so it makes sense the US would not appreciate Iran funding terrorists to attack Israel.
It’s pretty simple, really.
And by doing so it gives the US an excuse to attack and take control of those countries
This is just nonsense. The US controls neither Iraq nor Afghanistan so its absurd to suggest they’d want to control Iran or Lebanon.
If you believe so…
Update: looks like IS claimed this. As I said, Mossad is on top of the list, but not alone by far.
That’s awful. Rest in peace to those who were killed.
I think I’m gonna start taking all my sick time now.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
State-run media in Iran cited Babak Yektaparast, a spokesperson for the country’s emergency service, as saying 73 people had been killed and 170 wounded.
Suleimani’s body is buried in the cemetery along with 1,024 other people regarded as martyrs, and the site has become a place of pilgrimage for supporters of the so-called “axis of resistance” against the US and the west.
Suleimani was killed in a US drone strike in Baghdad in 2020 and was seen as the leader directing Iranian proxy forces in Iraq and Syria.
Iran only recently said it had eradicated a group backed by the Mossad, the Israeli state secret service.
On 25 December, an Israeli airstrike in Syria killed a top commander of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC), prompting Tehran to threaten that Israel would “certainly pay” for its actions.
Iranian state media identified the commander as Razi Mousavi, a senior adviser of the Quds Force, saying he had been killed in an airstrike near the Syrian capital, Damascus.
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What a way to celebrate
I still am upset america never was sanctioned for this act of terror. They didnt “just” kill the general but also airport staff. In true american fashion the lives of innocents dont matter to america.
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Imagine living in a free country and having access to pretty much every information you want and then making fun of people in an authoritarian dictatorship being blown up because they went to the memorial of the guy who was held up as a martyr and hero by their propaganda, probably more so than anyone else.
Also really shows that you have no values when you think an attack like that on trumples would be no big deal, maybe even funny. Being radicalized and stupid doesn’t mean you should die either.
Would you offer the same compassion if this was in Germany 1944? A bunch of people suckered into propaganda celebrating the memory of a Nazi general?
I’d hope not.
Oh I don’t think it’d be no big deal, I think it would be amazing news to hear a bunch of trump supporters died.
Being dangerous means you should die, Trump or Iran regime supporters are not simply people with different views they are actively wanting to kill people for thing such as being LGBTQ+.
As a german I get ultra triggered whenever people with American brainrot pretend to know anything about my countries history. You don’t. Did we deserve to get bombed in the way the allies did? Yes, probably. Would the allies have been justified to slaughter civilians on a memorial like that? Fuck no.
Trumptards are more morally culpible than people who live in highly censored authoritarian countries, yet that doesn’t mean I want them to die. If you believe in reform for anyone, that should be obvious to you. If you disagree, might as well advocate for putting everyone who ever went to prison in a woodchipper.
Sorry, no sympathy for the people who want to kill me for just exisiting, propaganda or not.
Aight, sounds like something the Isreali rightwingers would say when blowing up civilians in Gaza to justify their actions…
It’s a memorial, not a parade. Your comment is scary.
Still is a memorial
Same difference. Only losers celebrate the military.
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